Does anyone know of a program that could remap the mouse movement of ONLY ONE mouse to that of a 360 controller's right analog stick? (moving mouse1 would be interpreted as moving the right analog stick of the 360 controller. Moving mouse2 would be interpreted as normal mouse movement. Sort of like Xpadder, but in reverse.)If possible, with a slightly revamped cfg file, Left 4 Dead could be played splitscreen with 2 mice and 2 keyboards online on a single computer.Remapping mouse axises to gamepad analog control - Splitscreen w/2 mice in L4D
Something like this, but I do not know to make two seperate mice and keyboards.Remapping mouse axises to gamepad analog control - Splitscreen w/2 mice in L4D
Thanks - that is the file we use to bind the keys.....We are going to need one of these two programs to seperate mouse input:TeamPlayer (Full version costs $20)http://www.wunderworks.com/download-teamplayer/^works in the windows environment - allows you to have an unlimited # of cursors in windows.Microsoft Multipoint (Free - you can download a plugin/demo at the first link, dev kit at the second).http://www.mymousegames.com/Instructions.aspx^multipoint demo softwarehttp://www.microsoft.com/unlimitedpotential/programs/multipoint.mspx^multipoint SDKThe easiest way to do this would be to develop a program from scratch using microsoft multipoint that will run in the normal windows environment. From there, set the controls of player 2 in the left for dead cfg to match the name of the 2nd mouse. I don't know what that name is, and I can't check without downloading the dev kit for multipoint - it requires VS.Net, which I don't have.)So for right now, as far as I know, this is a dead end unless someone else programs the multipoint workaround.Is anyone willing? Does anyone know another way to get 2 mice/cursors working in the windows environment?EDIT:Found another possibility - CPNMouse. It's a hassle to install, but I have two mice working in the windows environment now without having to pay anything. I still don't know what the names of the individual mice are yet, but if we can find that then we could simply change the buttons in left for dead and have splitscreen working with two mice on one keyboard. Here's the links for CPN mouse and some directions on how to get it working:http://cpnmouse.sourceforge.net/index.html^Site with the CPNMouse drivers.1) Download 'Driver 1.01.zip' from the 'quick download' menu on the far left. extract the zip file somewhere permenant (ex. C: Drivers CPNMouse ).2) If your mouse is a USB mouse, then follow the instructions on THIS page - http://cpnmouse.sourceforge.net/unknown.html - to add the line from those directions to the .inf file in the last line under the ' [CPNGroup.Mfg] ' heading.3) Follow these instructions - http://cpnmouse.sourceforge.net/install.html - on installing the driver that matches your system4) download this program - http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/cpnmouse/cpnmouse-ordinary-binary-0.1.0.zip?download - that will allow you to run the second mouse in the windows environment.
Recap/BumpSplitting mice control so that two cursors work independently in windows is possible (see the end of previous post for a free way to set this up on a windows system). That means that splitscreen games on the pc (left for dead) could be played on one computer with two mice if we can figure out how to map controls of the bottom screen to the second mouse.Any ideas?
Thursday, April 15, 2010
Steam Account Problem
Well I hate steam, so i thought i would turn to this community before i email the valve guys. I was wondering if there is anyway to delete a steam account and all the junk associated with it (Ie. Games downloads...etc). The thing is I bought Orange box when it came out and installed it with an old steam account that i don't use any more. Recently I made a new account and of course when i tried to install orange box again it said the CD KEY was in use by another account. I heard that it costs 10 bucks to have valve transfer it. I want to know if there is another way to delete the account and the stuff its linked to, without having to break into Valve's HQ and bust up some servers lol.Thanks for any help!Steam Account Problem
That's weird; why don't you just download the game again(with the new account)?Steam Account Problem
[QUOTE=''Silencer008'']Well I hate steam, so i thought i would turn to this community before i email the valve guys. I was wondering if there is anyway to delete a steam account and all the junk associated with it (Ie. Games downloads...etc). The thing is I bought Orange box when it came out and installed it with an old steam account that i don't use any more. Recently I made a new account and of course when i tried to install orange box again it said the CD KEY was in use by another account. I heard that it costs 10 bucks to have valve transfer it. I want to know if there is another way to delete the account and the stuff its linked to, without having to break into Valve's HQ and bust up some servers lol.Thanks for any help![/QUOTE]''A CD Key may only be registered to one Steam account. CD Keys are associated with your Steam Account, not your computer.''Also,https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=1558-QYAX-1965MERGING ACCOUNTSUnfortunately, Steam accounts can not be merged together.Per theSteam Subscriber Agreement, Steam game subscriptions / CD keys are nontransferable and cannot be reset / moved between Steam accounts..This is to prevent games from being transfered from a stolen/hacked account to a different account. I believe it also used to curb people from thinking they can cheat on VAC secured games and move the CD-key to a different account.
Yea the cheating thing seems logicalI don't want to redownload but i think i will have to...It does cost money lol thats why i didn't just do it in the first place.Maybe i will get a job at valve and eventually work my way to the servers and bust em up.... Hmmmm..... A plan for another day.Thanks for replying guys
That's weird; why don't you just download the game again(with the new account)?Steam Account Problem
[QUOTE=''Silencer008'']Well I hate steam, so i thought i would turn to this community before i email the valve guys. I was wondering if there is anyway to delete a steam account and all the junk associated with it (Ie. Games downloads...etc). The thing is I bought Orange box when it came out and installed it with an old steam account that i don't use any more. Recently I made a new account and of course when i tried to install orange box again it said the CD KEY was in use by another account. I heard that it costs 10 bucks to have valve transfer it. I want to know if there is another way to delete the account and the stuff its linked to, without having to break into Valve's HQ and bust up some servers lol.Thanks for any help![/QUOTE]''A CD Key may only be registered to one Steam account. CD Keys are associated with your Steam Account, not your computer.''Also,https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=1558-QYAX-1965MERGING ACCOUNTSUnfortunately, Steam accounts can not be merged together.Per theSteam Subscriber Agreement, Steam game subscriptions / CD keys are nontransferable and cannot be reset / moved between Steam accounts..This is to prevent games from being transfered from a stolen/hacked account to a different account. I believe it also used to curb people from thinking they can cheat on VAC secured games and move the CD-key to a different account.
Yea the cheating thing seems logicalI don't want to redownload but i think i will have to...It does cost money lol thats why i didn't just do it in the first place.Maybe i will get a job at valve and eventually work my way to the servers and bust em up.... Hmmmm..... A plan for another day.Thanks for replying guys
Looking to buy a laptop
Hey everyone.Will be going to collage this year and I'm looking to buy a laptop that i will be able to run most games smoothly (empire:total war, counterstrite etc). Graphics isn't a major concern for me, more the FPS. . Don't know what to look for. Budget of ?00-?00 (THATS ABOUT $500-$700)Any recommendations. I live in UKLooking to buy a laptop
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sorry i should have mentioned, i'd like it for gaming aswell. ill re-edit my original post
If you need to chose between CPU-Power or graphics, choose graphics.A laptop is very difficult to upgrade; especially with the video card 'cause its soldered on.
For that budget, look to play older games, or some modern games at lower settings.
[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]Looking to buy a laptop
sorry i should have mentioned, i'd like it for gaming aswell. ill re-edit my original post
If you need to chose between CPU-Power or graphics, choose graphics.A laptop is very difficult to upgrade; especially with the video card 'cause its soldered on.
For that budget, look to play older games, or some modern games at lower settings.
Are there still physx cards out there?
Not that I am intending to buy one anytime soon, but I am curious if there are still PhysX cards even out there ''in the wild'' anymore. :DAre there still physx cards out there?
Well, physx capability is now on pretty much every single current nVidia GPU, so yes.Are there still physx cards out there?
EbayOr2 Nvidia video cards. Something like a GTX 285 + 8600 or 9600 GT.
[QUOTE=''organic_machine'']Well, physx capability is now on pretty much every single current nVidia GPU, so yes.[/QUOTE]I think he meant dedicated physx cards, and I'm sure there are still some on ebay and stuff
[QUOTE=''dackchaar''][QUOTE=''organic_machine'']Well, physx capability is now on pretty much every single current nVidia GPU, so yes.[/QUOTE]I think he meant dedicated physx cards, and I'm sure there are still some on ebay and stuff[/QUOTE]Correct me if I'm mistaken, but aren't the dedicated cards worthless if he has an nVidia card?
[QUOTE=''organic_machine'']Correct me if I'm mistaken, but aren't the dedicated cards worthless if he has an nVidia card?[/QUOTE]
Yes, because a dedicated GeForce video card for PhysX would be faster and have more RAM than a PhysX card.
[QUOTE=''organic_machine''][QUOTE=''dackchaar''][QUOTE=''organic_machine'']Well, physx capability is now on pretty much every single current nVidia GPU, so yes.[/QUOTE]I think he meant dedicated physx cards, and I'm sure there are still some on ebay and stuff[/QUOTE]Correct me if I'm mistaken, but aren't the dedicated cards worthless if he has an nVidia card?[/QUOTE]exactly, that's his point, but I suppose that they wouldn't be entirely worthless, considering that you card could be freed up from the load of calculating the physics, which probably doesn't affect it too much
[QUOTE=''dackchaar'']exactly, that's his point, but I suppose that they wouldn't be entirely worthless, considering that you card could be freed up from the load of calculating the physics, which probably doesn't affect it too much[/QUOTE]All you would need for Physx though would be a 8600 GT/9500 GT at MINIMUM though. A 8600 GT is $50. A 9500 GT is around $60. If I went PhysX though, I would try and get 9600 GSO at least or a single slot 9800 GT.
[QUOTE=''organic_machine''][QUOTE=''dackchaar''][QUOTE=''organic_machine'']Well, physx capability is now on pretty much every single current nVidia GPU, so yes.[/QUOTE]I think he meant dedicated physx cards, and I'm sure there are still some on ebay and stuff[/QUOTE]Correct me if I'm mistaken, but aren't the dedicated cards worthless if he has an nVidia card?[/QUOTE]Well, not really.Having one card doing just graphics and one doing just physics, will perform better than one card trying to do graphics and physics at the same time.Of course, if you have another PCI-E 16x slot, you can get a cheap card like a 9600GSO or something, and use that solely as a PhysX card. But if I recall correctly, the AGEIA PhysX cards were standard PCI, which would be suitable for people with no available PCI-E 16x slots.
[QUOTE=''broken_bass_bin'']Having one card doing just graphics and one doing just physics, will perform better than one card trying to do graphics and physics at the same time.Of course, if you have another PCI-E 16x slot, you can get a cheap card like a 9600GSO or something, and use that solely as a PhysX card. But if I recall correctly, the AGEIA PhysX cards were standard PCI, which would be suitable for people with no available PCI-E 16x slots.[/QUOTE]They also made PCI-E 1x PhysX cards because most boards now a days have one to two PCI-E 1x slots as well as a couple PCI-E 16x slots.
The PhysX cards came out in both PCI and PCI-E versions. There were also both 128MB and 256MB configurations.
And even now for PhysX acceleration, the PPU's still hold up well, and compare favorably to CUDA 1.* cards (8800 and 9**0 series). You'd need a CUDA 2 card (GTX 2**) or better to really have enough headroom to where the lack of PPU won't matter.
That, and last I checked, having an ati and an nvidia video driver (even if one isn't the main adapter) rarely is a good thing. So in that respect, an ATi user would still find it preferable to have the PPU than to have to buy an nvidia card and deal with potential snafu.
Well, physx capability is now on pretty much every single current nVidia GPU, so yes.Are there still physx cards out there?
EbayOr2 Nvidia video cards. Something like a GTX 285 + 8600 or 9600 GT.
[QUOTE=''organic_machine'']Well, physx capability is now on pretty much every single current nVidia GPU, so yes.[/QUOTE]I think he meant dedicated physx cards, and I'm sure there are still some on ebay and stuff
[QUOTE=''dackchaar''][QUOTE=''organic_machine'']Well, physx capability is now on pretty much every single current nVidia GPU, so yes.[/QUOTE]I think he meant dedicated physx cards, and I'm sure there are still some on ebay and stuff[/QUOTE]Correct me if I'm mistaken, but aren't the dedicated cards worthless if he has an nVidia card?
[QUOTE=''organic_machine'']Correct me if I'm mistaken, but aren't the dedicated cards worthless if he has an nVidia card?[/QUOTE]
Yes, because a dedicated GeForce video card for PhysX would be faster and have more RAM than a PhysX card.
[QUOTE=''organic_machine''][QUOTE=''dackchaar''][QUOTE=''organic_machine'']Well, physx capability is now on pretty much every single current nVidia GPU, so yes.[/QUOTE]I think he meant dedicated physx cards, and I'm sure there are still some on ebay and stuff[/QUOTE]Correct me if I'm mistaken, but aren't the dedicated cards worthless if he has an nVidia card?[/QUOTE]exactly, that's his point, but I suppose that they wouldn't be entirely worthless, considering that you card could be freed up from the load of calculating the physics, which probably doesn't affect it too much
[QUOTE=''dackchaar'']exactly, that's his point, but I suppose that they wouldn't be entirely worthless, considering that you card could be freed up from the load of calculating the physics, which probably doesn't affect it too much[/QUOTE]All you would need for Physx though would be a 8600 GT/9500 GT at MINIMUM though. A 8600 GT is $50. A 9500 GT is around $60. If I went PhysX though, I would try and get 9600 GSO at least or a single slot 9800 GT.
[QUOTE=''organic_machine''][QUOTE=''dackchaar''][QUOTE=''organic_machine'']Well, physx capability is now on pretty much every single current nVidia GPU, so yes.[/QUOTE]I think he meant dedicated physx cards, and I'm sure there are still some on ebay and stuff[/QUOTE]Correct me if I'm mistaken, but aren't the dedicated cards worthless if he has an nVidia card?[/QUOTE]Well, not really.Having one card doing just graphics and one doing just physics, will perform better than one card trying to do graphics and physics at the same time.Of course, if you have another PCI-E 16x slot, you can get a cheap card like a 9600GSO or something, and use that solely as a PhysX card. But if I recall correctly, the AGEIA PhysX cards were standard PCI, which would be suitable for people with no available PCI-E 16x slots.
[QUOTE=''broken_bass_bin'']Having one card doing just graphics and one doing just physics, will perform better than one card trying to do graphics and physics at the same time.Of course, if you have another PCI-E 16x slot, you can get a cheap card like a 9600GSO or something, and use that solely as a PhysX card. But if I recall correctly, the AGEIA PhysX cards were standard PCI, which would be suitable for people with no available PCI-E 16x slots.[/QUOTE]They also made PCI-E 1x PhysX cards because most boards now a days have one to two PCI-E 1x slots as well as a couple PCI-E 16x slots.
The PhysX cards came out in both PCI and PCI-E versions. There were also both 128MB and 256MB configurations.
And even now for PhysX acceleration, the PPU's still hold up well, and compare favorably to CUDA 1.* cards (8800 and 9**0 series). You'd need a CUDA 2 card (GTX 2**) or better to really have enough headroom to where the lack of PPU won't matter.
That, and last I checked, having an ati and an nvidia video driver (even if one isn't the main adapter) rarely is a good thing. So in that respect, an ATi user would still find it preferable to have the PPU than to have to buy an nvidia card and deal with potential snafu.
Questions about putting Windows on it's on drive.
1. Is the gain in speed significant for regular use?2. Does it have to be the only program on that drive, or are there some things that can go on that disk?Questions about putting Windows on it's on drive.
What do you mean? How else can you install windows but to put it on its own drive?Questions about putting Windows on it's on drive.
Windows on one drive, other files on another.
I think you're talking about partitions
What do you mean? How else can you install windows but to put it on its own drive?Questions about putting Windows on it's on drive.
Windows on one drive, other files on another.
I think you're talking about partitions
Decent laptop that can play cod waw at medium settings with a decent fps around
this is for my buddy btw, he needs a laptop for school but also wants to play his cod waw on it. His budget is around 500 dollars, can anyone recommend me any? i personally dont like laptops for gaming, but he insists on getting one600 dollars is alright too i suppose. His on a tight budgetDecent laptop that can play cod waw at medium settings with a decent fps around
impossible unless it got GTS 120 and he that he play at 1024x780 with 30fps no aa for medium quality that should be
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTS-160M.14561.0.htmlDecent laptop that can play cod waw at medium settings with a decent fps around
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220562 The Asus K40IN laptop can play CoD WaW pretty good with its 512mb G102M gpu.
[QUOTE=''name294'']this is for my buddy btw, he needs a laptop for school but also wants to play his cod waw on it. His budget is around 500 dollars, can anyone recommend me any? i personally dont like laptops for gaming, but he insists on getting one600 dollars is alright too i suppose. His on a tight budget[/QUOTE]He is not getting any where close to a gaming laptop for $600. Your looking at close to $700-$900 for a, sense of the word, gaming laptop
[QUOTE=''Hekynn'']http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220562 The Asus K40IN laptop can play CoD WaW pretty good with its 512mb G102M gpu.[/QUOTE]
I looked all around for you, that laptop is the best u can get for gaming that is closest to ur price. Anything lower has integrated video which is crap.mask movie
impossible unless it got GTS 120 and he that he play at 1024x780 with 30fps no aa for medium quality that should be
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTS-160M.14561.0.htmlDecent laptop that can play cod waw at medium settings with a decent fps around
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220562 The Asus K40IN laptop can play CoD WaW pretty good with its 512mb G102M gpu.
[QUOTE=''name294'']this is for my buddy btw, he needs a laptop for school but also wants to play his cod waw on it. His budget is around 500 dollars, can anyone recommend me any? i personally dont like laptops for gaming, but he insists on getting one600 dollars is alright too i suppose. His on a tight budget[/QUOTE]He is not getting any where close to a gaming laptop for $600. Your looking at close to $700-$900 for a, sense of the word, gaming laptop
[QUOTE=''Hekynn'']http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220562 The Asus K40IN laptop can play CoD WaW pretty good with its 512mb G102M gpu.[/QUOTE]
I looked all around for you, that laptop is the best u can get for gaming that is closest to ur price. Anything lower has integrated video which is crap.
I need a mic that has a usb port!
Please... someone send me a link or sometin.... it would be nice if it was low cost and found in amazon or any website like bestbuy or somthing....THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! =)I need a mic that has a usb port!
Well if you already have a head set or mic this will allow you to use usb. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812186046I need a mic that has a usb port!
I just got this mic as a backup for LAN parties and such and its great for the price.http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3166831%26retainProdsInSession=1%26numProdsPerPage=60Its easy to use, very comfortable and its got great sound for an affordable price.
Well if you already have a head set or mic this will allow you to use usb. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812186046I need a mic that has a usb port!
I just got this mic as a backup for LAN parties and such and its great for the price.http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3166831%26retainProdsInSession=1%26numProdsPerPage=60Its easy to use, very comfortable and its got great sound for an affordable price.
Barracuda for $60, Legit or Scam?
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Razer-Barracuda-HP-1-Gaming-Headset-headphone-SKU07_W0QQitemZ330355927974QQcategoryZ3274QQcmdZViewItemIs this legit? I mean it says it's original, new and in the box. I think there's something wrong here. I mean it's a $120 headset.Barracuda for $60, Legit or Scam?
I don't really know, somebody did ask that question and he did say yes. Then again he only has 107 feedback, and the item is shipping from China.Barracuda for $60, Legit or Scam?
idk your always taking a risk when you buy from ebay and user rating are not a good indicator the rating system is so severely flawed its not even funny shaddy sellers can maintain high ratings quite easily.
Google them and you'll find them for about $75 + $5 shipping, which is $80. This guy is doing the typical low price + outrageous shipping charge. $60 + $20 shipping is the same $80. It's probably real but coming from China, who knows how long it could take.TigerDirect has them for $75 - 15% CB + $8.00 shipping. Total $71.75.The one on ebay would be $74 total after 10% CB on the item price.
Yeck... I would recommend something far different and cheaper while being just as effective and give out better quality sound. Something like the HD 201 with the Zalman clip on mic would do better.
I don't really know, somebody did ask that question and he did say yes. Then again he only has 107 feedback, and the item is shipping from China.Barracuda for $60, Legit or Scam?
idk your always taking a risk when you buy from ebay and user rating are not a good indicator the rating system is so severely flawed its not even funny shaddy sellers can maintain high ratings quite easily.
Google them and you'll find them for about $75 + $5 shipping, which is $80. This guy is doing the typical low price + outrageous shipping charge. $60 + $20 shipping is the same $80. It's probably real but coming from China, who knows how long it could take.TigerDirect has them for $75 - 15% CB + $8.00 shipping. Total $71.75.The one on ebay would be $74 total after 10% CB on the item price.
Yeck... I would recommend something far different and cheaper while being just as effective and give out better quality sound. Something like the HD 201 with the Zalman clip on mic would do better.
Upgrading to Windows 7
Should i upgrade vista to windows 7?Upgrading to Windows 7
If you have vista......no....Upgrading to Windows 7
No, also i had a jack daniel userbar and the mods told me to remove it because there are kids around here :?
Well for 100 dollars I'd say no, but back when they had the 50 dollar deal I would say YES. That's when I preordered my copy as for you i'd just wait until a possible price drop.
if you vista 64 bit no, but if you have 32bit and want 4gb + ram I'd get win7 64
[QUOTE=''imprezawrx500'']if you vista 64 bit no, but if you have 32bit and want 4gb + ram I'd get win7 64[/QUOTE]
why no if i have vista 64 :x ? just curious
[QUOTE=''JackLKing'']If you have vista......no....[/QUOTE]
I had Vista 32-bit and reformatted to Win7 RTM 32-bit. It gave me a huge performance increase.
Vista fully started up in about 1.5 - 3 min while Win7 is ready in 10 sec! My games don't stutter as much as they used to and I rarely hear my CPU fans roaring when I'm not using it... which was weird that Vista used so much of my CPU while idling :?
One other thing... Win7 gave me my RAM back for games instead of hogging it :x
If you have extra money to spend and truly use your PC for things that demand performance, go for it. Otherwise, nay.
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I don't see a difference. I've been jumping back and forth between Vista and Windows 7 all year. I'd wait until Windows 7 specific stuff comes out. I've had way too many annoyances with stuff not working exactly right. Funny thing is, even if something was working in Vista, in Windows 7, I find myself using XP compatibilty mode alot.
I think it would be good to upgrade to windows 7 because its better than vista in every day work,more stable,future proof and eventually u will upgrade to windows 7 for DX11.
Upgrade to Window 7.....
[QUOTE=''Volatility'']Should i upgrade vista to windows 7?[/QUOTE]Yes you should, keep moving along with technology. Windows 7 may not be a huge step but it does improve on things in many areas. And don't be left behind with the anti-Microsoft movement. I'll be movine on W7...and will be enjoying it.
[QUOTE=''Zillaschool'']I think it would be good to upgrade to windows 7 because its better than vista in every day work,more stable,future proof and eventually u will upgrade to windows 7 for DX11.[/QUOTE]DX11 going to be for Vista as well, dunno about DX12 or 13 or 14 though, hehe.I'd say upgrade to 7, it seems to work very well.
Win7 is nothing more than Vista with a new name and a new look, with a few less and a few extra features. There will be little to NO difference in performance, outside of SSD, where Win7 does have quite an advantage.
I see no reason to avoid Win7, but at the same time, I do not see updating from Vista to Win7 to be worth it.
I am still on XP (I wish I could have afforded Vista) so I will be getting Win7, when I have the available funds. But if I had Vista already, I would not waste my money on Win7, but that just my $0.02.
what about downgrading from vista to xp?
I'm gonna have to agree with the users above, Win7 has given me a huge performance increase over XP. Although my ATI card doesn't have Win7 drivers yet, I'm sure this will be fixed... you know, when Win7 actually comes out.
[QUOTE=''Zillaschool'']I think it would be good to upgrade to windows 7 because its better than vista in every day work,more stable,future proof and eventually u will upgrade to windows 7 for DX11.[/QUOTE]
vista will support DX11.
If you have vista......no....Upgrading to Windows 7
No, also i had a jack daniel userbar and the mods told me to remove it because there are kids around here :?
Well for 100 dollars I'd say no, but back when they had the 50 dollar deal I would say YES. That's when I preordered my copy as for you i'd just wait until a possible price drop.
if you vista 64 bit no, but if you have 32bit and want 4gb + ram I'd get win7 64
[QUOTE=''imprezawrx500'']if you vista 64 bit no, but if you have 32bit and want 4gb + ram I'd get win7 64[/QUOTE]
why no if i have vista 64 :x ? just curious
[QUOTE=''JackLKing'']If you have vista......no....[/QUOTE]
I had Vista 32-bit and reformatted to Win7 RTM 32-bit. It gave me a huge performance increase.
Vista fully started up in about 1.5 - 3 min while Win7 is ready in 10 sec! My games don't stutter as much as they used to and I rarely hear my CPU fans roaring when I'm not using it... which was weird that Vista used so much of my CPU while idling :?
One other thing... Win7 gave me my RAM back for games instead of hogging it :x
If you have extra money to spend and truly use your PC for things that demand performance, go for it. Otherwise, nay.
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I don't see a difference. I've been jumping back and forth between Vista and Windows 7 all year. I'd wait until Windows 7 specific stuff comes out. I've had way too many annoyances with stuff not working exactly right. Funny thing is, even if something was working in Vista, in Windows 7, I find myself using XP compatibilty mode alot.
I think it would be good to upgrade to windows 7 because its better than vista in every day work,more stable,future proof and eventually u will upgrade to windows 7 for DX11.
Upgrade to Window 7.....
[QUOTE=''Volatility'']Should i upgrade vista to windows 7?[/QUOTE]Yes you should, keep moving along with technology. Windows 7 may not be a huge step but it does improve on things in many areas. And don't be left behind with the anti-Microsoft movement. I'll be movine on W7...and will be enjoying it.
[QUOTE=''Zillaschool'']I think it would be good to upgrade to windows 7 because its better than vista in every day work,more stable,future proof and eventually u will upgrade to windows 7 for DX11.[/QUOTE]DX11 going to be for Vista as well, dunno about DX12 or 13 or 14 though, hehe.I'd say upgrade to 7, it seems to work very well.
Win7 is nothing more than Vista with a new name and a new look, with a few less and a few extra features. There will be little to NO difference in performance, outside of SSD, where Win7 does have quite an advantage.
I see no reason to avoid Win7, but at the same time, I do not see updating from Vista to Win7 to be worth it.
I am still on XP (I wish I could have afforded Vista) so I will be getting Win7, when I have the available funds. But if I had Vista already, I would not waste my money on Win7, but that just my $0.02.
what about downgrading from vista to xp?
I'm gonna have to agree with the users above, Win7 has given me a huge performance increase over XP. Although my ATI card doesn't have Win7 drivers yet, I'm sure this will be fixed... you know, when Win7 actually comes out.
[QUOTE=''Zillaschool'']I think it would be good to upgrade to windows 7 because its better than vista in every day work,more stable,future proof and eventually u will upgrade to windows 7 for DX11.[/QUOTE]
vista will support DX11.
Windows 7 64 bits worth it?
Hello, i am having doubts if i should go with 64 bits or 32 bits, do you think gamesand software will work fine?I have read various good opinions but still..For the record i have a core i7 and a recent printer (drivers) also i do some programming if anyone can give me info on software about that it would be niceThank you for your timeRegardsWindows 7 64 bits worth it?
mine works fine only. only prob is my chipset drivers dont support it, but it still works fine. overall really nice all my games work with itWindows 7 64 bits worth it?
I run off Windows 7 64-bit RC 7100 and have yet to encounter a game that won't run.There are some software that I would like to run for tweaking my setup like ATITOOL and much older software, but most everything runs fine.
Yes its worth it. Any issues regarding compatiblity will more than likely come from it being Windows 7 and not from being 64 bits.
id have to say after running win7 64 for over 5 months now, i love it. It runs (so far) every game ive installed, my chipset drivers work great, this OS has such a light weight non bloated feel to it. Finally M$ got something right IMO
Well thanks for all the messages i have made up my mind, i will install 64 bits :D.thank you all for your time you've been most helpfull.Best regards
i say go with 64 bit
You may not add more than 3GB with a 32-bit OS. Go with 64-bit.
mine works fine only. only prob is my chipset drivers dont support it, but it still works fine. overall really nice all my games work with itWindows 7 64 bits worth it?
I run off Windows 7 64-bit RC 7100 and have yet to encounter a game that won't run.There are some software that I would like to run for tweaking my setup like ATITOOL and much older software, but most everything runs fine.
Yes its worth it. Any issues regarding compatiblity will more than likely come from it being Windows 7 and not from being 64 bits.
id have to say after running win7 64 for over 5 months now, i love it. It runs (so far) every game ive installed, my chipset drivers work great, this OS has such a light weight non bloated feel to it. Finally M$ got something right IMO
Well thanks for all the messages i have made up my mind, i will install 64 bits :D.thank you all for your time you've been most helpfull.Best regards
i say go with 64 bit
You may not add more than 3GB with a 32-bit OS. Go with 64-bit.
Upgrading power supply and video card
Hey all, I recently purchased an HP computer and I wanted to replace the graphics card, which was integrated, and also a power supply to support it. Here are the main specs: AMD Phenom X4 9750, 8 gigs of RAM, and a Geforce 9100 (which I will replace with a 9800 GTX+). So my main question is, will this work with the computer I bought as long as I get an adequate power supply (500w)? Also, I plan on playing WoW most of the time, so what kind of performance should I expect? Thanks. Here's a link to the computer if your interested: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9384285%26type=product%26id=1218096181010Upgrading power supply and video card
really any 500 watt + with a good 12v rail will suffice.. its the ball that ties down high end gpus they need good dedicated power..Upgrading power supply and video card
[QUOTE=''carlop91'']Hey all, I recently purchased an HP computer and I wanted to replace the graphics card, which was integrated, and also a power supply to support it. Here are the main specs: AMD Phenom X4 9750, 8 gigs of RAM, and a Geforce 9100 (which I will replace with a 9800 GTX+). So my main question is, will this work with the computer I bought as long as I get an adequate power supply (500w)? Also, I plan on playing WoW most of the time, so what kind of performance should I expect? Thanks. Here's a link to the computer if your interested: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9384285%26type=product%26id=1218096181010[/QUOTE]
for WoW geforce 9100 is fine me thinks :)
make sure the mother board has a PCI Express 2.0 x16 slot and also switch ur gpu pick to a gts 250, its the same exact card as the gtx 9800+ except it uses less energy and its smaller and newer. also since u have a quad core and that much ram u might wanna switch to a 600w. heres a wattage calculator
really any 500 watt + with a good 12v rail will suffice.. its the ball that ties down high end gpus they need good dedicated power..Upgrading power supply and video card
[QUOTE=''carlop91'']Hey all, I recently purchased an HP computer and I wanted to replace the graphics card, which was integrated, and also a power supply to support it. Here are the main specs: AMD Phenom X4 9750, 8 gigs of RAM, and a Geforce 9100 (which I will replace with a 9800 GTX+). So my main question is, will this work with the computer I bought as long as I get an adequate power supply (500w)? Also, I plan on playing WoW most of the time, so what kind of performance should I expect? Thanks. Here's a link to the computer if your interested: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9384285%26type=product%26id=1218096181010[/QUOTE]
for WoW geforce 9100 is fine me thinks :)
make sure the mother board has a PCI Express 2.0 x16 slot and also switch ur gpu pick to a gts 250, its the same exact card as the gtx 9800+ except it uses less energy and its smaller and newer. also since u have a quad core and that much ram u might wanna switch to a 600w. heres a wattage calculator
need help....
hey i am a dota player.
i had a nvidia 9400GT wich is not working...
the grafix of the card some time blows off.
at 1st i thought my LCD crashed. so i tested another pci card form my friend ( Nvidia GF 8400 SE) and it worked nicely. bt my 9400GT grafix still blows off... the monitor turn black.
what should i do...need help....
Have tried installing the latest drivers? What do you mean by ''blows off''?mask movie
i had a nvidia 9400GT wich is not working...
the grafix of the card some time blows off.
at 1st i thought my LCD crashed. so i tested another pci card form my friend ( Nvidia GF 8400 SE) and it worked nicely. bt my 9400GT grafix still blows off... the monitor turn black.
what should i do...need help....
Have tried installing the latest drivers? What do you mean by ''blows off''?
How high can it go
what kind of settings do you guys think i should be able to get out of crysis with this setupwindows vistacore 2 quad 2.33 ghzgts 250 1gb4gb ramHow high can it go
[QUOTE=''dg8794'']what kind of settings do you guys think i should be able to get out of crysis with this setupwindows vistacore 2 quad 2.33 ghzgts 250 1gb4gb ram[/QUOTE]
hmm well I'd say that on high at 1280 x 1024 would be a great place to start at. make sure you keep Antialiasing (AA) and anistropic (AF) off though for best performance.How high can it go
but dont you get those jagedy lines without AA, and my monitors native resolution is 1600x900
[QUOTE=''dg8794'']but dont you get those jagedy lines without AA, and my monitors native resolution is 1600x900[/QUOTE]
No not in crysis you shouldn't. In fact I almost never play with AA on because I never get any jagged lines from what I can see.
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thanks, i had it on for no reason then
[QUOTE=''dg8794'']thanks, i had it on for no reason then[/QUOTE]
Also since you're relatively new here create a profile for yourself (at least tell us what country you live in). Don't be shy
u would do better with games if u had a higher gtz on the cpu, like a duo core could have a higher rate and do better than a quad for gamming and if ur planning to buy a pc or parts, windows 7 is comming out soon
you can play at high at that res with no problems,I get an avarage of 26 fps in high at 1440x900 with my e2200@3ghz ,2 gb of ram and my 3850 512mb at 750 core and 950 mem
[QUOTE=''dg8794'']what kind of settings do you guys think i should be able to get out of crysis with this setupwindows vistacore 2 quad 2.33 ghzgts 250 1gb4gb ram[/QUOTE]
hmm well I'd say that on high at 1280 x 1024 would be a great place to start at. make sure you keep Antialiasing (AA) and anistropic (AF) off though for best performance.How high can it go
but dont you get those jagedy lines without AA, and my monitors native resolution is 1600x900
[QUOTE=''dg8794'']but dont you get those jagedy lines without AA, and my monitors native resolution is 1600x900[/QUOTE]
No not in crysis you shouldn't. In fact I almost never play with AA on because I never get any jagged lines from what I can see.
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thanks, i had it on for no reason then
[QUOTE=''dg8794'']thanks, i had it on for no reason then[/QUOTE]
Also since you're relatively new here create a profile for yourself (at least tell us what country you live in). Don't be shy
u would do better with games if u had a higher gtz on the cpu, like a duo core could have a higher rate and do better than a quad for gamming and if ur planning to buy a pc or parts, windows 7 is comming out soon
you can play at high at that res with no problems,I get an avarage of 26 fps in high at 1440x900 with my e2200@3ghz ,2 gb of ram and my 3850 512mb at 750 core and 950 mem
Good Specs for this PC?
I've decided to get back into gaming and I found a PC for sale and I want to know if the specs are good. I've been pretty much out of the loop with PC hardware and gaming for atleast 5 years. With the specs on this PC is it ok for gaming?Memory: 6GB RAM DDR2, Dual Channel(8GB Max)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 w/ VT
Processor: Each Core at 2.4GHz. 2x 4MB L2 Cache %26 1066MHz
Video: Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3100. Up to 256mb memory
Hard Drive: 640GB SATA II 7200RPM
15-in-1 Memory Card Reader
Audio: 8-channel (7.1) High Def audio
Optical Drive: 18x DVDRW supermulti drive with LabelFlash
Network: 10/100/1000 Base-T networking interface
Software: Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit with SP1Good Specs for this PC?
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i guess this is a prebuilt system from bestbuy or somthing :P ,how much is it? and i think the gpu is bad
Nothing looks bad except for the Intel graphics. You're going to want an ATI or nVidia card. Which one depends on your budget. But you won't be doing much (or any, depending on the game) gaming with that. You might not want to get it depending on the price, as you'll want a new video card.
[QUOTE=''darkminus'']I've decided to get back into gaming and I found a PC for sale and I want to know if the specs are good. I've been pretty much out of the loop with PC hardware and gaming for atleast 5 years. With the specs on this PC is it ok for gaming?Memory: 6GB RAM DDR2, Dual Channel(8GB Max)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 w/ VT
Processor: Each Core at 2.4GHz. 2x 4MB L2 Cache %26 1066MHz
Video: Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3100. Up to 256mb memory
Hard Drive: 640GB SATA II 7200RPM
15-in-1 Memory Card Reader
Audio: 8-channel (7.1) High Def audio
Optical Drive: 18x DVDRW supermulti drive with LabelFlash
Network: 10/100/1000 Base-T networking interface
Software: Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit with SP1[/QUOTE] The only thing I see lacking is the Video. Oh by the way my friend is selling his Rig on craigslist would you be interested? The poor fellow is desperetly trying to sell it. The Specs are in his Sig and his profile is here so you can send him a PM if you're interested. He's a reliable person so please give him a chance. http://www.gamespot.com/users/RedxSniper/. Hopefully you live in the US.
GPU'S integrated, a.k.a CRAP! Sorry.
He's selling it for $450. Would it be able to run any good games currently out?
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[QUOTE=''darkminus'']He's selling it for $450. Would it be able to run any good games currently out?[/QUOTE]
No the video is very bad and I doubt it has a name brand power supply. Check my friends Rig that he is selling. His Rig can knock all the latest games out of the park.
[QUOTE=''darkminus'']He's selling it for $450. Would it be able to run any good games currently out?[/QUOTE]Buy it!!!! You'd need a video card, but that'd only be like $200 more for a 4890.
[QUOTE=''UltimateGamer95''][QUOTE=''darkminus'']He's selling it for $450. Would it be able to run any good games currently out?[/QUOTE]
No the video is very bad and I doubt it has a name brand power supply. Check my friends Rig that he is selling. His Rig can knock all the latest games out of the park.[/QUOTE]
I looked at it and his craigslist page for it. It sounds good but I'm not interested because I'm only looking locally. Thanks though.
[QUOTE=''smc91352''][QUOTE=''darkminus'']He's selling it for $450. Would it be able to run any good games currently out?[/QUOTE]Buy it!!!! You'd need a video card, but that'd only be like $200 more for a 4890.[/QUOTE]
No please don't buy it! Buy my friend's instead because his is built from high quality, High performance parts.
[QUOTE=''darkminus''][QUOTE=''UltimateGamer95''][QUOTE=''darkminus'']He's selling it for $450. Would it be able to run any good games currently out?[/QUOTE]
No the video is very bad and I doubt it has a name brand power supply. Check my friends Rig that he is selling. His Rig can knock all the latest games out of the park.[/QUOTE]
I looked at it and his craigslist page for it. It sounds good but I'm not interested because I'm only looking locally. Thanks though. [/QUOTE]
Ok thanks for looking though.
[QUOTE=''UltimateGamer95''][QUOTE=''darkminus''][QUOTE=''UltimateGamer95''] No the video is very bad and I doubt it has a name brand power supply. Check my friends Rig that he is selling. His Rig can knock all the latest games out of the park.[/QUOTE] I looked at it and his craigslist page for it. It sounds good but I'm not interested because I'm only looking locally. Thanks though. [/QUOTE] Ok thanks for looking though.[/QUOTE]
why dont u talk to ultimate gamer? she'll build u a high performance one for little money. talk to her
Ask about the power supply (PSU). If it's at least 550w you should definitely pick this computer up and then throw in a video card.
every thing looks good except you need to buy a graphics card as that one uses integrated which is terrible for gaming. and how much are you paying btw and from where are you buying it from?
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 w/ VT
Processor: Each Core at 2.4GHz. 2x 4MB L2 Cache %26 1066MHz
Video: Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3100. Up to 256mb memory
Hard Drive: 640GB SATA II 7200RPM
15-in-1 Memory Card Reader
Audio: 8-channel (7.1) High Def audio
Optical Drive: 18x DVDRW supermulti drive with LabelFlash
Network: 10/100/1000 Base-T networking interface
Software: Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit with SP1Good Specs for this PC?
[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]Good Specs for this PC?
i guess this is a prebuilt system from bestbuy or somthing :P ,how much is it? and i think the gpu is bad
Nothing looks bad except for the Intel graphics. You're going to want an ATI or nVidia card. Which one depends on your budget. But you won't be doing much (or any, depending on the game) gaming with that. You might not want to get it depending on the price, as you'll want a new video card.
[QUOTE=''darkminus'']I've decided to get back into gaming and I found a PC for sale and I want to know if the specs are good. I've been pretty much out of the loop with PC hardware and gaming for atleast 5 years. With the specs on this PC is it ok for gaming?Memory: 6GB RAM DDR2, Dual Channel(8GB Max)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 w/ VT
Processor: Each Core at 2.4GHz. 2x 4MB L2 Cache %26 1066MHz
Video: Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3100. Up to 256mb memory
Hard Drive: 640GB SATA II 7200RPM
15-in-1 Memory Card Reader
Audio: 8-channel (7.1) High Def audio
Optical Drive: 18x DVDRW supermulti drive with LabelFlash
Network: 10/100/1000 Base-T networking interface
Software: Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit with SP1[/QUOTE] The only thing I see lacking is the Video. Oh by the way my friend is selling his Rig on craigslist would you be interested? The poor fellow is desperetly trying to sell it. The Specs are in his Sig and his profile is here so you can send him a PM if you're interested. He's a reliable person so please give him a chance. http://www.gamespot.com/users/RedxSniper/. Hopefully you live in the US.
GPU'S integrated, a.k.a CRAP! Sorry.
He's selling it for $450. Would it be able to run any good games currently out?
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[QUOTE=''darkminus'']He's selling it for $450. Would it be able to run any good games currently out?[/QUOTE]
No the video is very bad and I doubt it has a name brand power supply. Check my friends Rig that he is selling. His Rig can knock all the latest games out of the park.
[QUOTE=''darkminus'']He's selling it for $450. Would it be able to run any good games currently out?[/QUOTE]Buy it!!!! You'd need a video card, but that'd only be like $200 more for a 4890.
[QUOTE=''UltimateGamer95''][QUOTE=''darkminus'']He's selling it for $450. Would it be able to run any good games currently out?[/QUOTE]
No the video is very bad and I doubt it has a name brand power supply. Check my friends Rig that he is selling. His Rig can knock all the latest games out of the park.[/QUOTE]
I looked at it and his craigslist page for it. It sounds good but I'm not interested because I'm only looking locally. Thanks though.
[QUOTE=''smc91352''][QUOTE=''darkminus'']He's selling it for $450. Would it be able to run any good games currently out?[/QUOTE]Buy it!!!! You'd need a video card, but that'd only be like $200 more for a 4890.[/QUOTE]
No please don't buy it! Buy my friend's instead because his is built from high quality, High performance parts.
[QUOTE=''darkminus''][QUOTE=''UltimateGamer95''][QUOTE=''darkminus'']He's selling it for $450. Would it be able to run any good games currently out?[/QUOTE]
No the video is very bad and I doubt it has a name brand power supply. Check my friends Rig that he is selling. His Rig can knock all the latest games out of the park.[/QUOTE]
I looked at it and his craigslist page for it. It sounds good but I'm not interested because I'm only looking locally. Thanks though. [/QUOTE]
Ok thanks for looking though.
[QUOTE=''UltimateGamer95''][QUOTE=''darkminus''][QUOTE=''UltimateGamer95''] No the video is very bad and I doubt it has a name brand power supply. Check my friends Rig that he is selling. His Rig can knock all the latest games out of the park.[/QUOTE] I looked at it and his craigslist page for it. It sounds good but I'm not interested because I'm only looking locally. Thanks though. [/QUOTE] Ok thanks for looking though.[/QUOTE]
why dont u talk to ultimate gamer? she'll build u a high performance one for little money. talk to her
Ask about the power supply (PSU). If it's at least 550w you should definitely pick this computer up and then throw in a video card.
every thing looks good except you need to buy a graphics card as that one uses integrated which is terrible for gaming. and how much are you paying btw and from where are you buying it from?
Windows 7 Upgrade or Clean Install
I built a rig recently and purchased a copy of Vista 64-bit for system builders. Like all the other OS purchases right now, bit came with coupon for the free Windows 7 Upgrade. It sounds like this is the upgrade version... meaning I will simply install it over my current system.Can anyone verify if it is possible to use the upcoming Windows 7 disk for a clean install... meaning I would format my computer and load Windows 7 from the start?Windows 7 Upgrade or Clean Install
[QUOTE=''CortezThePirate'']I built a rig recently and purchased a copy of Vista 64-bit for system builders. Like all the other OS purchases right now, bit came with coupon for the free Windows 7 Upgrade. It sounds like this is the upgrade version... meaning I will simply install it over my current system.Can anyone verify if it is possible to use the upcoming Windows 7 disk for a clean install... meaning I would format my computer and load Windows 7 from the start?[/QUOTE]If its an upgrade disk, that's all it will do, is upgrade. So keep your recovery disks handy.Windows 7 Upgrade or Clean Install
Yes. You can perform a clean install of Windows 7 with the Upgrade media, as you could with Windows Vista.
[QUOTE=''CortezThePirate'']I built a rig recently and purchased a copy of Vista 64-bit for system builders. Like all the other OS purchases right now, bit came with coupon for the free Windows 7 Upgrade. It sounds like this is the upgrade version... meaning I will simply install it over my current system.Can anyone verify if it is possible to use the upcoming Windows 7 disk for a clean install... meaning I would format my computer and load Windows 7 from the start?[/QUOTE]If its an upgrade disk, that's all it will do, is upgrade. So keep your recovery disks handy.Windows 7 Upgrade or Clean Install
Yes. You can perform a clean install of Windows 7 with the Upgrade media, as you could with Windows Vista.
What you think of my configuration for my laptob... for gaming purpose
I just ordered Sony Vaio NW series.Here are my specs... do you think this play games at it full advantage... please see below in red.Product Specifications Hardware![]()
What you think of my configuration for my laptob... for gaming purpose
noWhat you think of my configuration for my laptob... for gaming purpose
[QUOTE=''smc91352'']no[/QUOTE]
I don't need graphics that run crysis at full... but games like C%26C.... i love those kind of game... will these games look good on this laptob?
How much is that computer going to run you? We (Best Buy) have that model in stock minus the video card for $799.
[QUOTE=''CStheGreat'']How much is that computer going to run you? We (Best Buy) have that model in stock minus the video card for $799.[/QUOTE] $850.00 with the ATI Mobility Radeon
I would've bought it from best buy but they didn't have this option.
This one is better, and it costs less.EDIT: Just to be specific500 GB HDD
Core 2 Duo p7350
HD 4570
16' screen
You could play the C%26C Generals and the other C%26C games of that time with no problem. The new ones I'm not so sure how well it will work, but you shoud be able to tweak it to playable settings, just without the bells and wistles.
- Camera : Built-in MOTION EYE?camera and microphone
- Keyboard : QWERTY, 86 keys with 2.0mm stroke and 19.05mm pitch
- Ethernet Protocol : 10Base-T/100Base-TX/1000Base-T (Gigabit)
- Ethernet Speed : Fast Ethernet (RJ-45)
- Wi-Fi : Intel?WiFi Link 5100AGN (802.11a/b/g/n)3
- Sound System : Intel?High Definition Audio
- Anti-Virus Software : Norton Internet Security%26trade; 2009 30-Day Trial Offer15
- Operating System : Genuine Microsoft?Windows Vista?Home Premium 64-bit12
- Supplied Software : Microsoft?Works SE 9.0 w/ 60-Day Trial Version of Microsoft?Office Home and Student 200714
- The VAIO?Software Experience : VAIO?Startup Assistant VAIO?Care
- VAIO?Multimedia Suite : VAIO?Startup Assistant Click to Disc Editor - Import, Edit, Burn VAIO?Movie Story - Simple Movie Creation VAIO?MusicBox - Music by Mood VAIO?Media plus - Multimedia Streaming Software *Please access VAIO?Help and Support from your PC for a complete list of software applications and trials.
- Installed : 4GB PC2-6400 (2GBx2)
- Maximum : 8GB
- Type/Speed : DDR2/800MHz
- Dimensions (Approx.) : 14.6''(W) x 1.2''(H) x 9.8''(D)5,6
- Weight (Approx.) : 6.0 lbs5 (with standard capacity battery)
- Action Buttons : Mute, WLAN on / off, Display Off, Instant Web
- Computer Type : Notebook
- Pointing Device : Electro-static touch pad
- Type of Use : Portable
- Multimedia Card Reader : One Memory Stick PRO%26trade; (Standard/Duo) media slot with MagicGate?functionality One ExpressCard?/ 34 media slot One Secure Digital (SD memory card) media slot
- Chipset : Intel?PM45 Express Chipset
- Max. External Display Resolution via HDMI%26trade; : 1920 x 1080
- Max. External Resolution via VGA : 2048 x 1536
- Processor : ATI Mobility Radeon%26trade; HD 4570 with Total Available Graphics Memory of 2280MB (max.)13
- Video RAM : 512MB dedicated video RAM
- Resolution : 1366 x 768
- Screen Size : 15.5''4
- Technology : WXGA
- XBRITE-ECO%26trade; Technology : Yes
- ENERGY STAR?: 5.0
- ROHS?: Compliant
- Capacity : 320GB2
- Speed : 5400rpm
- Type : Serial ATA
- Battery Type : Standard Capacity Lithium-ion Battery (VGP-BPS13/B)
- Estimated Battery Life : Up to 4.0 hours8 Standard Capacity Battery Up to 6.5 hours8 Large Capacity Battery
- Power Requirements : 95W + 10%
- International Service : 1 year international service plan available. Registration required. See www.sony.com/IRSP for details.
- Limited Warranty Term : 1 year limited warranty9. See actual warranty for details.
- Online and Email Support : Support available from http://www.esupport.sony.com/EN/VAIO
- Telephone Support : 1 year toll-free technical telephone assistance, available 24/710
- Front Side Bus Speed : 800MHz
- L2 Cache : 2MB
- Speed : 2.10GHz1
- Technology : Intel?Centrino?processor technology
- Type : Intel?Core%26trade; 2 Duo Processor T6500
- DC-In : 1
- Ethernet Connection(s) : 1
- HDMI%26trade; Output : 111
- Microphone Input : 1
- USB Port(s) : 3 (2.0 compliant)
- VGA Output(s) : 1
- i.LINK?Connection : 1 (4pin) i.LINK?connector (IEEE 1394)7
- CD Support : Read / Write (CD/-R/-RW)
- DVD Support : Read / Write (DVD盧/盧W/盧 DL/-RAM)
- Power Cord
- Standard Capacity Lithium-ion battery (VGP-BPS13/B)
- AC Adapter
noWhat you think of my configuration for my laptob... for gaming purpose
[QUOTE=''smc91352'']no[/QUOTE]
I don't need graphics that run crysis at full... but games like C%26C.... i love those kind of game... will these games look good on this laptob?
How much is that computer going to run you? We (Best Buy) have that model in stock minus the video card for $799.
[QUOTE=''CStheGreat'']How much is that computer going to run you? We (Best Buy) have that model in stock minus the video card for $799.[/QUOTE] $850.00 with the ATI Mobility Radeon
I would've bought it from best buy but they didn't have this option.
This one is better, and it costs less.EDIT: Just to be specific500 GB HDD
Core 2 Duo p7350
HD 4570
16' screen
You could play the C%26C Generals and the other C%26C games of that time with no problem. The new ones I'm not so sure how well it will work, but you shoud be able to tweak it to playable settings, just without the bells and wistles.
Setting up a LAN party
So me and some friends decided that it's finally time to try out a LAN party. I'm going to host it at my house with a total of 8 people. What kind of hardware am I going to need? What games should we play? Any suggestions are welcome.Setting up a LAN party
As long as you got a fast enough Internet connectionand a router, you'll be alright. Also, get your AC on 'cause it'll get hot; and get chips or something.Setting up a LAN party
A game capable of LAN connectivity.An 8 port router or switch.Multiple Outlets each on their own circuit breaker. No more then three PCs should be on the same circuit breaker. If you have more then three you risk tripping the breaker. A US based circuit breaker is meant for around 1500w of power draw, can supply more depending on the breaker's amperage though.A long, foldable table or two with chairs and stuff.[QUOTE=''smc91352'']As long as you got a fast enough Internet connectionand a router, you'll be alright. Also, get your AC on 'cause it'll get hot; and get chips or something.[/QUOTE]He said LAN, usually means all you'll be doing is playing games that are LAN based, meaning no need for internet connection.
[QUOTE=''kilerchese'']An 8 port router or switch.[/QUOTE]Is there a way to utalize 2 4 port routers for eight computers? Or will I strictly need an 8 port router?
2 x 4 ports are only going to give you 7 ports. You could do 3 x 4 port routers though and have 10 ports.Reason you'll only get 7 ports is because one router will have to connect to the other. One end of the cat cable will come from one of the LAN ports and the other end will go to the WAN port.This is what it would look like.![]()
Blue is ethernet cables to PCs.You could also just pick up a 8 port switch and not have to worry about router configuration if your just going to do LAN play.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833127082
[QUOTE=''kilerchese'']2 x 4 ports are only going to give you 7 ports. You could do 3 x 4 port routers though and have 10 ports.Reason you'll only get 7 ports is because one router will have to connect to the other. One end of the cat cable will come from one of the LAN ports and the other end will go to the WAN port.This is what it would look like.![]()
Blue is ethernet cables to PCs.You could also just pick up a 8 port switch and not have to worry about router configuration if your just going to do LAN play.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833127082[/QUOTE]Gotcha. Thanks for the help.
You definitely want to use wired ethernet, however I'd suggest getting a gigabit ethernet router that way you will have the fastest network connection possible (also CAT 5E or CAT 6 Ethernet cable). Also you will need plenty of food, snacks, and soda (please don't get drunk lol). And you definitely can't forget the Computer's themselves! It would be a good idea to have your friends bring their own computers (hopefully they have some decent hardware configurations as well). Also for games I'd recommend Enemy Territory Quake Wars, Unreal Tournament 3, Gears of War, and Call of Duty 4. Hey you should invite some of your gamespot friends as well! Well anyway good luck my friend and have fun!
Unless all of the computer are Gigabit capable, no need for a gigabit router. I know the switch I suggested supports Gigabit, but I didn't suggest it because of it. It's the best rated 8 port switch on Newegg that is un-managed.
[QUOTE=''UltimateGamer95'']You definitely want to use wired ethernet, however I'd suggest getting a gigabit ethernet router that way you will have the fastest network connection possible. Also you will need plenty of food, snacks, and soda (please don't get drunk lol). Also for games I'd recommend Enemy Territory Quake Wars, Unreal Tournament 3, Gears of War, and Call of Duty 4. Hey you should invite some of your gamespot friends as well! Well anyway good luck my friend and have fun![/QUOTE]Ooh, ooh; Unreal Tournament is perfect! One thing I always wanted to try is playing a Real-Time Strategy game in Battle-ship style(face-to-face).
a network switch or 2 and lots of cables. depends what sort of games your into. fps can be lots of fun.
[QUOTE=''BlackHawk2599''][QUOTE=''kilerchese'']2 x 4 ports are only going to give you 7 ports. You could do 3 x 4 port routers though and have 10 ports.Reason you'll only get 7 ports is because one router will have to connect to the other. One end of the cat cable will come from one of the LAN ports and the other end will go to the WAN port.This is what it would look like.![]()
Blue is ethernet cables to PCs.You could also just pick up a 8 port switch and not have to worry about router configuration if your just going to do LAN play.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833127082[/QUOTE]Gotcha. Thanks for the help.[/QUOTE] That is not the way you would do that for most routers. Instead, just plug the secondary router into one of the rj45 ports of the primary router, skipping the wan port. Also disable dhcp on all of the secondary routers and make sure that the routers are all given IP addresses in the same broadcast range.
Since I want something technical to do, I will make you a nice list. Either use routers that you have already or pick up a switch with plenty of ports. If you are using 2 4-port routers, you will lose one of those ports to connecting the second router, so you will have to find yet another router for the extra one connection.The setup will go like this:
As long as you got a fast enough Internet connectionand a router, you'll be alright. Also, get your AC on 'cause it'll get hot; and get chips or something.Setting up a LAN party
A game capable of LAN connectivity.An 8 port router or switch.Multiple Outlets each on their own circuit breaker. No more then three PCs should be on the same circuit breaker. If you have more then three you risk tripping the breaker. A US based circuit breaker is meant for around 1500w of power draw, can supply more depending on the breaker's amperage though.A long, foldable table or two with chairs and stuff.[QUOTE=''smc91352'']As long as you got a fast enough Internet connectionand a router, you'll be alright. Also, get your AC on 'cause it'll get hot; and get chips or something.[/QUOTE]He said LAN, usually means all you'll be doing is playing games that are LAN based, meaning no need for internet connection.
[QUOTE=''kilerchese'']An 8 port router or switch.[/QUOTE]Is there a way to utalize 2 4 port routers for eight computers? Or will I strictly need an 8 port router?
2 x 4 ports are only going to give you 7 ports. You could do 3 x 4 port routers though and have 10 ports.Reason you'll only get 7 ports is because one router will have to connect to the other. One end of the cat cable will come from one of the LAN ports and the other end will go to the WAN port.This is what it would look like.
[QUOTE=''kilerchese'']2 x 4 ports are only going to give you 7 ports. You could do 3 x 4 port routers though and have 10 ports.Reason you'll only get 7 ports is because one router will have to connect to the other. One end of the cat cable will come from one of the LAN ports and the other end will go to the WAN port.This is what it would look like.
You definitely want to use wired ethernet, however I'd suggest getting a gigabit ethernet router that way you will have the fastest network connection possible (also CAT 5E or CAT 6 Ethernet cable). Also you will need plenty of food, snacks, and soda (please don't get drunk lol). And you definitely can't forget the Computer's themselves! It would be a good idea to have your friends bring their own computers (hopefully they have some decent hardware configurations as well). Also for games I'd recommend Enemy Territory Quake Wars, Unreal Tournament 3, Gears of War, and Call of Duty 4. Hey you should invite some of your gamespot friends as well! Well anyway good luck my friend and have fun!
Unless all of the computer are Gigabit capable, no need for a gigabit router. I know the switch I suggested supports Gigabit, but I didn't suggest it because of it. It's the best rated 8 port switch on Newegg that is un-managed.
[QUOTE=''UltimateGamer95'']You definitely want to use wired ethernet, however I'd suggest getting a gigabit ethernet router that way you will have the fastest network connection possible. Also you will need plenty of food, snacks, and soda (please don't get drunk lol). Also for games I'd recommend Enemy Territory Quake Wars, Unreal Tournament 3, Gears of War, and Call of Duty 4. Hey you should invite some of your gamespot friends as well! Well anyway good luck my friend and have fun![/QUOTE]Ooh, ooh; Unreal Tournament is perfect! One thing I always wanted to try is playing a Real-Time Strategy game in Battle-ship style(face-to-face).
a network switch or 2 and lots of cables. depends what sort of games your into. fps can be lots of fun.
[QUOTE=''BlackHawk2599''][QUOTE=''kilerchese'']2 x 4 ports are only going to give you 7 ports. You could do 3 x 4 port routers though and have 10 ports.Reason you'll only get 7 ports is because one router will have to connect to the other. One end of the cat cable will come from one of the LAN ports and the other end will go to the WAN port.This is what it would look like.
Since I want something technical to do, I will make you a nice list. Either use routers that you have already or pick up a switch with plenty of ports. If you are using 2 4-port routers, you will lose one of those ports to connecting the second router, so you will have to find yet another router for the extra one connection.The setup will go like this:
- Primary router(which hosts DHCP) Set to a common lan IP such as 192.168.1.1
- Secondary Router(which has DHCP disabled)Manually set to a reserved lan IP address such as 192.168.1.101
- Tertiary Router(which has DHCP disabled)Manually set to a reserved lan IP address such as 192.168.1.102
Radeon HD 4830 @ 1920x1080
I've read plenty of reviews and benchmarks, but I'm wondering if anyone here has any experience with this particular setup. I should also mention that I'm not interested in AA. In my opinion, AA is nice at lower resolutions where pixel density isn't very good, but I honestly don't see what difference it makes above, like, 1280x960. May as well leave the stress off the GPU.
So, anyone here running an HD 4830 at 1920x1080? Got any advice for an honest-to-goodness cheapskate? :P
Thanks much in advance.Radeon HD 4830 @ 1920x1080
[QUOTE=''JN_Fenrir'']I've read plenty of reviews and benchmarks, but I'm wondering if anyone here has any experience with this particular setup. I should also mention that I'm not interested in AA. In my opinion, AA is nice at lower resolutions where pixel density isn't very good, but I honestly don't see what difference it makes above, like, 1280x960. May as well leave the stress off the GPU.
So, anyone here running an HD 4830 at 1920x1080? Got any advice for an honest-to-goodness cheapskate? :P
Thanks much in advance.[/QUOTE]
I think there is much better cards, if you can spend 150 you can get some incredible cards on Newegg.comRadeon HD 4830 @ 1920x1080
i would opt for a 4870 at least the 1G version would be preferred at that resolution. and don't notice AA i play at 1920x1200 and i can't stand playing without AA looks horrible.
if thats in any currency other than US dollars thats a great buy..
I got a 1 GB 4850 from newegg for 110 bucks (think it's 120 now but still a good deal)
I know the 4850 and 4870 are better cards. Kinda goes without saying. :P
It's not really a matter of money. I'm just curious as to how the 4830 performs at 1920x1080. If it performs well enough, then I don't see the need to buy a more powerful card. I don't care much about graphics, I just want to be able to play a few of the bigger titles at reasonably high settings, but I'd like to do it at my monitor's native res (1920x1080). And I like the 4830 because it's not a power hog. So that's pretty much the only card I'm asking about for the moment. I do appreciate the responses though.
I've got one - it's acceptable.
All the Source games run maxed out at 1920x1080, as does anything older than a couple of years. The Witcher runs well, too, but chugs a bit in crazier situations - not sure if that's my CPU or the card, though.
Crysis will run at 1080p medium/high reasonably well, but is more playable at lower resolutions.
[QUOTE=''JN_Fenrir'']I know the 4850 and 4870 are better cards. Kinda goes without saying. :P It's not really a matter of money. I'm just curious as to how the 4830 performs at 1920x1080. If it performs well enough, then I don't see the need to buy a more powerful card. I don't care much about graphics, I just want to be able to play a few of the bigger titles at reasonably high settings, but I'd like to do it at my monitor's native res (1920x1080). And I like the 4830 because it's not a power hog. So that's pretty much the only card I'm asking about for the moment. I do appreciate the responses though.[/QUOTE]I had a 4830 ran everyting great at 720p but 180p was a differnt story well I sold the card to a freind and got an 4890 and well it destroys every game at 1080p other then crysis is get 4850 if i were you
I'd wait for the HD5000's series because then the 4800's series will drop in price.
The 4850 costs about the same on Newegg.
If you can afford a monitor that can do 19*10 you can afford a better card :?
[QUOTE=''X360PS3AMD05'']If you can afford a monitor that can do 19*10 you can afford a better card :?[/QUOTE]
Monitor is more important than gpu IMHO, so not necessarily. I spent $450 on my monitor and only had $80 to spend on my gpu (got a good deal on a 4850).mask movie
So, anyone here running an HD 4830 at 1920x1080? Got any advice for an honest-to-goodness cheapskate? :P
Thanks much in advance.Radeon HD 4830 @ 1920x1080
[QUOTE=''JN_Fenrir'']I've read plenty of reviews and benchmarks, but I'm wondering if anyone here has any experience with this particular setup. I should also mention that I'm not interested in AA. In my opinion, AA is nice at lower resolutions where pixel density isn't very good, but I honestly don't see what difference it makes above, like, 1280x960. May as well leave the stress off the GPU.
So, anyone here running an HD 4830 at 1920x1080? Got any advice for an honest-to-goodness cheapskate? :P
Thanks much in advance.[/QUOTE]
I think there is much better cards, if you can spend 150 you can get some incredible cards on Newegg.comRadeon HD 4830 @ 1920x1080
i would opt for a 4870 at least the 1G version would be preferred at that resolution. and don't notice AA i play at 1920x1200 and i can't stand playing without AA looks horrible.
if thats in any currency other than US dollars thats a great buy..
I got a 1 GB 4850 from newegg for 110 bucks (think it's 120 now but still a good deal)
I know the 4850 and 4870 are better cards. Kinda goes without saying. :P
It's not really a matter of money. I'm just curious as to how the 4830 performs at 1920x1080. If it performs well enough, then I don't see the need to buy a more powerful card. I don't care much about graphics, I just want to be able to play a few of the bigger titles at reasonably high settings, but I'd like to do it at my monitor's native res (1920x1080). And I like the 4830 because it's not a power hog. So that's pretty much the only card I'm asking about for the moment. I do appreciate the responses though.
I've got one - it's acceptable.
All the Source games run maxed out at 1920x1080, as does anything older than a couple of years. The Witcher runs well, too, but chugs a bit in crazier situations - not sure if that's my CPU or the card, though.
Crysis will run at 1080p medium/high reasonably well, but is more playable at lower resolutions.
[QUOTE=''JN_Fenrir'']I know the 4850 and 4870 are better cards. Kinda goes without saying. :P It's not really a matter of money. I'm just curious as to how the 4830 performs at 1920x1080. If it performs well enough, then I don't see the need to buy a more powerful card. I don't care much about graphics, I just want to be able to play a few of the bigger titles at reasonably high settings, but I'd like to do it at my monitor's native res (1920x1080). And I like the 4830 because it's not a power hog. So that's pretty much the only card I'm asking about for the moment. I do appreciate the responses though.[/QUOTE]I had a 4830 ran everyting great at 720p but 180p was a differnt story well I sold the card to a freind and got an 4890 and well it destroys every game at 1080p other then crysis is get 4850 if i were you
I'd wait for the HD5000's series because then the 4800's series will drop in price.
The 4850 costs about the same on Newegg.
If you can afford a monitor that can do 19*10 you can afford a better card :?
[QUOTE=''X360PS3AMD05'']If you can afford a monitor that can do 19*10 you can afford a better card :?[/QUOTE]
Monitor is more important than gpu IMHO, so not necessarily. I spent $450 on my monitor and only had $80 to spend on my gpu (got a good deal on a 4850).
AMD 940 vs 945
hey guys i just wanna know what's the difference between these 2s. I saw the price on newegg. and the 945 seems like its lower than the 940. Currently trying to build a comp for a friend, so help me out.AMD 940 vs 945
The 945 is a true AM3 CPU with DDR3 support.AMD 940 vs 945
[QUOTE=''04dcarraher'']The 945 is a true AM3 CPU with DDR3 support.[/QUOTE] so i that lead me to another question:would the 945 work with:1. This gigabyte mobo - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128387and would this mobo be compatible with:2. This gskill ram - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231166
It should work just fine.
So why aren't you going Intel? It's funny when AMD was on top people didn't want to buy them, now Intel is back on top and everyone wants AMD.
[QUOTE=''X360PS3AMD05'']So why aren't you going Intel? It's funny when AMD was on top people didn't want to buy them, now Intel is back on top and everyone wants AMD. [/QUOTE]
-.- Don't breed.
The 945 is a true AM3 CPU with DDR3 support.AMD 940 vs 945
[QUOTE=''04dcarraher'']The 945 is a true AM3 CPU with DDR3 support.[/QUOTE] so i that lead me to another question:would the 945 work with:1. This gigabyte mobo - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128387and would this mobo be compatible with:2. This gskill ram - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231166
It should work just fine.
So why aren't you going Intel? It's funny when AMD was on top people didn't want to buy them, now Intel is back on top and everyone wants AMD.
[QUOTE=''X360PS3AMD05'']So why aren't you going Intel? It's funny when AMD was on top people didn't want to buy them, now Intel is back on top and everyone wants AMD. [/QUOTE]
-.- Don't breed.
Decent cheap build
Hi, Does anyone here know of any steady cheap builds? My cousin knows quite a few people who need computers and I would like to start building PC's for people. Basic needs are for internet and word processing some might need a lil gaming but i can tweak that for them individually. I am looking to spend no more than $350 US dollars on it. I will use this build as a start point and upgrade parts as needed. ThanksDecent cheap build
You might as well just buy a OEM PC and if they want some little gaming, slap in a current gen low end card in there. (e.g. HD 4670)Decent cheap build
[QUOTE=''Myzz617'']Hi, Does anyone here know of any steady cheap builds? My cousin knows quite a few people who need computers and I would like to start building PC's for people. Basic needs are for internet and word processing some might need a lil gaming but i can tweak that for them individually. I am looking to spend no more than $350 US dollars on it. I will use this build as a start point and upgrade parts as needed. Thanks[/QUOTE]
Try buying one of those barebone kits. I also I'm trying to build computers for people too lol!
[QUOTE=''kaitanuvax'']You might as well just buy a OEM PC and if they want some little gaming, slap in a current gen low end card in there. (e.g. HD 4670)[/QUOTE]
Thanks, Man i am slow because i know a website i can just buy a PC from and go from there. Ecost.com has cheap computers I am leaning towards P4 devices because they are still pretty good these days.
[QUOTE=''Myzz617''][QUOTE=''kaitanuvax'']You might as well just buy a OEM PC and if they want some little gaming, slap in a current gen low end card in there. (e.g. HD 4670)[/QUOTE]
Thanks, Man i am slow because i know a website i can just buy a PC from and go from there. Ecost.com has cheap computers I am leaning towards P4 devices because they are still pretty good these days. [/QUOTE]
For those that just need to check email and maybe surf the web a bit, a P4 will work. But if they want to do anything more then that, a little gaming, watching movies, transferring lots of files then you'd want to find something more along the lines of an older Core 2 Duo or an Athlon 64 X2.
I've got a P4 2.8GHz computer at work and there are some days I just want to kick that damn machine right out the window because it bogs down so much when I'm trying to utilize a few programs running at onces; like MS Outlook, Excel and Word. Granted I only have 512MB in the thing at work, which is part of the problem, but those are just basic things that start to slow the computer down.
Be sure to check out tigerdirect.com and look through their barebones kits - you can generally find an older Core 2 Duo barebone kit or a Athlon 64 X2 kit for $200-300. They'd be good for those that need more then just email and basic web browsing.
[QUOTE=''neatfeatguy''][QUOTE=''Myzz617''][QUOTE=''kaitanuvax'']You might as well just buy a OEM PC and if they want some little gaming, slap in a current gen low end card in there. (e.g. HD 4670)[/QUOTE]
Thanks, Man i am slow because i know a website i can just buy a PC from and go from there. Ecost.com has cheap computers I am leaning towards P4 devices because they are still pretty good these days. [/QUOTE]
For those that just need to check email and maybe surf the web a bit, a P4 will work. But if they want to do anything more then that, a little gaming, watching movies, transferring lots of files then you'd want to find something more along the lines of an older Core 2 Duo or an Athlon 64 X2.
I've got a P4 2.8GHz computer at work and there are some days I just want to kick that damn machine right out the window because it bogs down so much when I'm trying to utilize a few programs running at onces; like MS Outlook, Excel and Word. Granted I only have 512MB in the thing at work, which is part of the problem, but those are just basic things that start to slow the computer down.
Be sure to check out tigerdirect.com and look through their barebones kits - you can generally find an older Core 2 Duo barebone kit or a Athlon 64 X2 kit for $200-300. They'd be good for those that need more then just email and basic web browsing.[/QUOTE]
Will do, I use a P4 2Gb of RAM @ home to DL things and burn images, it works fine for the purposes i have it for. Most people that need a PC dont even have one and depending on their need i will adjust the Pc to them but I am trying to make some extra money on the side of course. Another question would be what type of Microsoft License would i need if i plan on building several Pc's and using a generic disc to do repairs and Operating system re-installs.
Hoo you people are so cheap nowadays.
350 for gaming is real hard. But earlier someone made build for $400 CDN which was decent. That would come out to around 350 US. I think it was neatfeatguy who posted above :P
[QUOTE=''rabisu999'']Hoo you people are so cheap nowadays.[/QUOTE]
Its for just a normal PC user this is not for gaming. Trying to sell pc's to people who i know that need them
This is the best I got.AMD Athlon II X2 240 2.7GHzGigabyte 740G mATX MotherBoardSeagate Barracuda 320GB 7200RPM HDDCrucial 2x1GB DDR2-800LITE-ON SATA DVD BurnerAntec 4480B II w/Antec Earthwatts 380wTotal w/o S%26H : $325.91Total w/S%26H to where I live : $350.91
You might as well just buy a OEM PC and if they want some little gaming, slap in a current gen low end card in there. (e.g. HD 4670)Decent cheap build
[QUOTE=''Myzz617'']Hi, Does anyone here know of any steady cheap builds? My cousin knows quite a few people who need computers and I would like to start building PC's for people. Basic needs are for internet and word processing some might need a lil gaming but i can tweak that for them individually. I am looking to spend no more than $350 US dollars on it. I will use this build as a start point and upgrade parts as needed. Thanks[/QUOTE]
Try buying one of those barebone kits. I also I'm trying to build computers for people too lol!
[QUOTE=''kaitanuvax'']You might as well just buy a OEM PC and if they want some little gaming, slap in a current gen low end card in there. (e.g. HD 4670)[/QUOTE]
Thanks, Man i am slow because i know a website i can just buy a PC from and go from there. Ecost.com has cheap computers I am leaning towards P4 devices because they are still pretty good these days.
[QUOTE=''Myzz617''][QUOTE=''kaitanuvax'']You might as well just buy a OEM PC and if they want some little gaming, slap in a current gen low end card in there. (e.g. HD 4670)[/QUOTE]
Thanks, Man i am slow because i know a website i can just buy a PC from and go from there. Ecost.com has cheap computers I am leaning towards P4 devices because they are still pretty good these days. [/QUOTE]
For those that just need to check email and maybe surf the web a bit, a P4 will work. But if they want to do anything more then that, a little gaming, watching movies, transferring lots of files then you'd want to find something more along the lines of an older Core 2 Duo or an Athlon 64 X2.
I've got a P4 2.8GHz computer at work and there are some days I just want to kick that damn machine right out the window because it bogs down so much when I'm trying to utilize a few programs running at onces; like MS Outlook, Excel and Word. Granted I only have 512MB in the thing at work, which is part of the problem, but those are just basic things that start to slow the computer down.
Be sure to check out tigerdirect.com and look through their barebones kits - you can generally find an older Core 2 Duo barebone kit or a Athlon 64 X2 kit for $200-300. They'd be good for those that need more then just email and basic web browsing.
[QUOTE=''neatfeatguy''][QUOTE=''Myzz617''][QUOTE=''kaitanuvax'']You might as well just buy a OEM PC and if they want some little gaming, slap in a current gen low end card in there. (e.g. HD 4670)[/QUOTE]
Thanks, Man i am slow because i know a website i can just buy a PC from and go from there. Ecost.com has cheap computers I am leaning towards P4 devices because they are still pretty good these days. [/QUOTE]
For those that just need to check email and maybe surf the web a bit, a P4 will work. But if they want to do anything more then that, a little gaming, watching movies, transferring lots of files then you'd want to find something more along the lines of an older Core 2 Duo or an Athlon 64 X2.
I've got a P4 2.8GHz computer at work and there are some days I just want to kick that damn machine right out the window because it bogs down so much when I'm trying to utilize a few programs running at onces; like MS Outlook, Excel and Word. Granted I only have 512MB in the thing at work, which is part of the problem, but those are just basic things that start to slow the computer down.
Be sure to check out tigerdirect.com and look through their barebones kits - you can generally find an older Core 2 Duo barebone kit or a Athlon 64 X2 kit for $200-300. They'd be good for those that need more then just email and basic web browsing.[/QUOTE]
Will do, I use a P4 2Gb of RAM @ home to DL things and burn images, it works fine for the purposes i have it for. Most people that need a PC dont even have one and depending on their need i will adjust the Pc to them but I am trying to make some extra money on the side of course. Another question would be what type of Microsoft License would i need if i plan on building several Pc's and using a generic disc to do repairs and Operating system re-installs.
Hoo you people are so cheap nowadays.
350 for gaming is real hard. But earlier someone made build for $400 CDN which was decent. That would come out to around 350 US. I think it was neatfeatguy who posted above :P
[QUOTE=''rabisu999'']Hoo you people are so cheap nowadays.[/QUOTE]
Its for just a normal PC user this is not for gaming. Trying to sell pc's to people who i know that need them
This is the best I got.AMD Athlon II X2 240 2.7GHzGigabyte 740G mATX MotherBoardSeagate Barracuda 320GB 7200RPM HDDCrucial 2x1GB DDR2-800LITE-ON SATA DVD BurnerAntec 4480B II w/Antec Earthwatts 380wTotal w/o S%26H : $325.91Total w/S%26H to where I live : $350.91
Core i7-920 or Core i7-860?
I'm planning on building a new rig to replace my 5 year old custom AMD 3200+ clunker. I had everything planned out, including getting the Intel Core i7 920 for $199 at MicroCenter until I found out Intel is coming out with several new processors using a new 1156 socket, specifically, the Core i3, Core i5, and new ''Lynnfield'' Core i7's. Do you guys think I should wait to see how they perform or pull the trigger ont he Intel Core i7 920?Core i7-920 or Core i7-860?
my guess would be that 920 will perform better, but it never hurts to wait and see if u can wait til the new models come outCore i7-920 or Core i7-860?
[QUOTE=''halokillerz'']my guess would be that 920 will perform better, but it never hurts to wait and see if u can wait til the new models come out[/QUOTE]Thats what I am thinking too, plus with a 920 build you will be using triple channel memory instead of dual channel, though not sure how much of a difference that will make.
I would wait, though if you wait too long the 920 will be gone. They are making the lga 1366 socket will be for enthusiast. So if you want to upgrade from a 920 in the future you will have to put a big dent in the pocket, though lga 1366 will see th upcoming 6-core cpus, but I do not even want to think about the price on those.
The LGA-1156 equivelant of the i7 920 performs just about the same as the i7 920 for $100 less($300 for i7 920)
[QUOTE=''kilerchese'']The LGA-1156 equivelant of the i7 920 performs just about the same as the i7 920 for $100 less($300 for i7 920)[/QUOTE]
That's my predicament. I can get the Core i7 920 for $199 at MicroCenter so essentially it would be the same price as the LGA 1156 equivalent.
The i7 920 will perform better than the 1156 series. Don't sweat it, otherwise Intel would have to deal with millions of angry customers.
The 1156 boards are going to be cheaper though than X58 boards. Though most will probably be around the same price as the low end x58 boards.For example, EVGA's P55 board. http://anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=634
Core i7 920 vs Core i7 860 Benchmark
http://www.playwares.com/xe/?document_srl=6202448Interesting numbers. What do you guys make of all this?
the new models that are coming out from intel are meant to be for affordable then the i7 series, thats my understanding atleast, go with the i7
if you want cheap highend performance go with a phenom 2. They are much cheaper and not far off, and apparently the i3 is just a rebranded core 2. If you have the money go for the i7 but the i5 will probably be better value for similar performance.
You should get the i7 920.
I still can't make up my mind. The Core i7 920 is still an awesome price at MicroCenter but supposedly the Core i7 860 will provide the same performance and be cheaper in the long run (P55 mobos are cheaper than X58 ones).
i dont mean to hijack thread here but will the current i7's drop in price when the socket 1156's come on out to strut there stuff?
[QUOTE=''aura_enchanted'']i dont mean to hijack thread here but will the current i7's drop in price when the socket 1156's come on out to strut there stuff?[/QUOTE] Naturally, that is the trend with all electronics prices. There are rumors that the Core i7 9XX will be discontinued when the Core i7 8XX series launches as the latter provides better performance at similar price points. I'm not sure whether the current Bloomfiled chips will drop in price, but it will be interesting to see pricing for the accompanying X58 motherboards. Socket 1366 is going to be more for workstations.
[QUOTE=''CStheGreat''][QUOTE=''aura_enchanted'']i dont mean to hijack thread here but will the current i7's drop in price when the socket 1156's come on out to strut there stuff?[/QUOTE] Naturally, that is the trend with all electronics prices. There are rumors that the Core i7 9XX will be discontinued when the Core i7 8XX series launches as the latter provides better performance at similar price points. I'm not sure whether the current Bloomfiled chips will drop in price, but it will be interesting to see pricing for the accompanying X58 motherboards. Socket 1366 is going to be more for workstations.[/QUOTE]
That wouldn't make sense to discontinue the i7 9 series since the i7 8 series is lga-1156 and i7 9 series is lga-1366.
[QUOTE=''kilerchese''][QUOTE=''CStheGreat''][QUOTE=''aura_enchanted'']i dont mean to hijack thread here but will the current i7's drop in price when the socket 1156's come on out to strut there stuff?[/QUOTE] Naturally, that is the trend with all electronics prices. There are rumors that the Core i7 9XX will be discontinued when the Core i7 8XX series launches as the latter provides better performance at similar price points. I'm not sure whether the current Bloomfiled chips will drop in price, but it will be interesting to see pricing for the accompanying X58 motherboards. Socket 1366 is going to be more for workstations.[/QUOTE]
That wouldn't make sense to discontinue the i7 9 series since the i7 8 series is lga-1156 and i7 9 series is lga-1366.[/QUOTE]its a rumor that the 920 and 940 will be discontinued while the higher end models will still remain.
[QUOTE=''halokillerz'']its a rumor that the 920 and 940 will be discontinued while the higher end models will still remain.[/QUOTE]The 940 has already been discontinued. Replaced by the 950. I think the 920 hasn't been discontinued yet because it is probably selling well.
Core i7-920 go for it
If you have a microcenter near you, go buy it! It's certainly worth the $200. Also the i7 has its advantages.[QUOTE=''AnandTech Lynnfield Preview'']Why would anyone want a LGA-1366 system then? I believe there are three major advantages to the LGA-1366 platform for single-socket desktops:1) Support for Gulftown. You can only get 6-cores from the LGA-1366 platform in 1H 2010, Intel currently doesn't have any 6-core LGA-1156 parts planned.2) More overclockable CPUs. The best yielding Nehalems (and highest clocked Nehalems) will be LGA-1366 processors. I wouldn't expect any 1GHz+ overclocks from LGA-1156 CPUs.3) More bandwidth to PCIe slots. I don't see this as a huge advantage today, but there may come a time when having as much bandwidth to your GPUs as possible is important. I'm thinking general purpose GPU computing, DX11, OpenCL sort of stuff. But we're not there yet.[/QUOTE]Source:http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3570%26p=11
my guess would be that 920 will perform better, but it never hurts to wait and see if u can wait til the new models come outCore i7-920 or Core i7-860?
[QUOTE=''halokillerz'']my guess would be that 920 will perform better, but it never hurts to wait and see if u can wait til the new models come out[/QUOTE]Thats what I am thinking too, plus with a 920 build you will be using triple channel memory instead of dual channel, though not sure how much of a difference that will make.
I would wait, though if you wait too long the 920 will be gone. They are making the lga 1366 socket will be for enthusiast. So if you want to upgrade from a 920 in the future you will have to put a big dent in the pocket, though lga 1366 will see th upcoming 6-core cpus, but I do not even want to think about the price on those.
The LGA-1156 equivelant of the i7 920 performs just about the same as the i7 920 for $100 less($300 for i7 920)
[QUOTE=''kilerchese'']The LGA-1156 equivelant of the i7 920 performs just about the same as the i7 920 for $100 less($300 for i7 920)[/QUOTE]
That's my predicament. I can get the Core i7 920 for $199 at MicroCenter so essentially it would be the same price as the LGA 1156 equivalent.
The i7 920 will perform better than the 1156 series. Don't sweat it, otherwise Intel would have to deal with millions of angry customers.
The 1156 boards are going to be cheaper though than X58 boards. Though most will probably be around the same price as the low end x58 boards.For example, EVGA's P55 board. http://anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=634
Core i7 920 vs Core i7 860 Benchmark
http://www.playwares.com/xe/?document_srl=6202448Interesting numbers. What do you guys make of all this?
the new models that are coming out from intel are meant to be for affordable then the i7 series, thats my understanding atleast, go with the i7
if you want cheap highend performance go with a phenom 2. They are much cheaper and not far off, and apparently the i3 is just a rebranded core 2. If you have the money go for the i7 but the i5 will probably be better value for similar performance.
You should get the i7 920.
I still can't make up my mind. The Core i7 920 is still an awesome price at MicroCenter but supposedly the Core i7 860 will provide the same performance and be cheaper in the long run (P55 mobos are cheaper than X58 ones).
i dont mean to hijack thread here but will the current i7's drop in price when the socket 1156's come on out to strut there stuff?
[QUOTE=''aura_enchanted'']i dont mean to hijack thread here but will the current i7's drop in price when the socket 1156's come on out to strut there stuff?[/QUOTE] Naturally, that is the trend with all electronics prices. There are rumors that the Core i7 9XX will be discontinued when the Core i7 8XX series launches as the latter provides better performance at similar price points. I'm not sure whether the current Bloomfiled chips will drop in price, but it will be interesting to see pricing for the accompanying X58 motherboards. Socket 1366 is going to be more for workstations.
[QUOTE=''CStheGreat''][QUOTE=''aura_enchanted'']i dont mean to hijack thread here but will the current i7's drop in price when the socket 1156's come on out to strut there stuff?[/QUOTE] Naturally, that is the trend with all electronics prices. There are rumors that the Core i7 9XX will be discontinued when the Core i7 8XX series launches as the latter provides better performance at similar price points. I'm not sure whether the current Bloomfiled chips will drop in price, but it will be interesting to see pricing for the accompanying X58 motherboards. Socket 1366 is going to be more for workstations.[/QUOTE]
That wouldn't make sense to discontinue the i7 9 series since the i7 8 series is lga-1156 and i7 9 series is lga-1366.
[QUOTE=''kilerchese''][QUOTE=''CStheGreat''][QUOTE=''aura_enchanted'']i dont mean to hijack thread here but will the current i7's drop in price when the socket 1156's come on out to strut there stuff?[/QUOTE] Naturally, that is the trend with all electronics prices. There are rumors that the Core i7 9XX will be discontinued when the Core i7 8XX series launches as the latter provides better performance at similar price points. I'm not sure whether the current Bloomfiled chips will drop in price, but it will be interesting to see pricing for the accompanying X58 motherboards. Socket 1366 is going to be more for workstations.[/QUOTE]
That wouldn't make sense to discontinue the i7 9 series since the i7 8 series is lga-1156 and i7 9 series is lga-1366.[/QUOTE]its a rumor that the 920 and 940 will be discontinued while the higher end models will still remain.
[QUOTE=''halokillerz'']its a rumor that the 920 and 940 will be discontinued while the higher end models will still remain.[/QUOTE]The 940 has already been discontinued. Replaced by the 950. I think the 920 hasn't been discontinued yet because it is probably selling well.
Core i7-920 go for it
If you have a microcenter near you, go buy it! It's certainly worth the $200. Also the i7 has its advantages.[QUOTE=''AnandTech Lynnfield Preview'']Why would anyone want a LGA-1366 system then? I believe there are three major advantages to the LGA-1366 platform for single-socket desktops:1) Support for Gulftown. You can only get 6-cores from the LGA-1366 platform in 1H 2010, Intel currently doesn't have any 6-core LGA-1156 parts planned.2) More overclockable CPUs. The best yielding Nehalems (and highest clocked Nehalems) will be LGA-1366 processors. I wouldn't expect any 1GHz+ overclocks from LGA-1156 CPUs.3) More bandwidth to PCIe slots. I don't see this as a huge advantage today, but there may come a time when having as much bandwidth to your GPUs as possible is important. I'm thinking general purpose GPU computing, DX11, OpenCL sort of stuff. But we're not there yet.[/QUOTE]Source:http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3570%26p=11
GPU Overclock Question
When i overclock my GPU the screen goes blank Orange/Brown Does this mean the memory clock is too high or core clock? or both?Is there anyway to tell? Should i start by overclocking the memory first or the core?I have my fan speed at 100% so there shouldn't be any heat problems and i have a decent case with good airflow.How much more FPS does overclocking give you?I have a Sapphire Radeon 4890 1GBThanks.GPU Overclock Question
[QUOTE=''PcGamingRig'']When i overclock my GPU the screen goes blank Orange/Brown Does this mean the memory clock is too high or core clock? or both?Is there anyway to tell? Should i start by overclocking the memory first or the core?I have my fan speed at 100% so there shouldn't be any heat problems and i have a decent case with good airflow.How much more FPS does overclocking give you?I have a Sapphire Radeon 4890 1GBThanks.[/QUOTE]Use Rivatuner.First things first, though. Make sure you put your GPU clock speeds back to their default setting. Then run Rivatuner and have it check for your max clock speeds (your computer may lock up and/or restart during this process). Rivatuner (if I remember correctly) will remember the clock speeds it reached before the lockup/restart (if it happens). Then just take those clock speeds and set your clocks just under them and then test for artifacting.It's pretty simple to use. I've used it with my 8800GTS 640MB card in the past and it worked just fine. I could overclock that card like mad, but each card is different and you might not get very good results as you were expecting.
[QUOTE=''PcGamingRig'']When i overclock my GPU the screen goes blank Orange/Brown Does this mean the memory clock is too high or core clock? or both?Is there anyway to tell? Should i start by overclocking the memory first or the core?I have my fan speed at 100% so there shouldn't be any heat problems and i have a decent case with good airflow.How much more FPS does overclocking give you?I have a Sapphire Radeon 4890 1GBThanks.[/QUOTE]Use Rivatuner.First things first, though. Make sure you put your GPU clock speeds back to their default setting. Then run Rivatuner and have it check for your max clock speeds (your computer may lock up and/or restart during this process). Rivatuner (if I remember correctly) will remember the clock speeds it reached before the lockup/restart (if it happens). Then just take those clock speeds and set your clocks just under them and then test for artifacting.It's pretty simple to use. I've used it with my 8800GTS 640MB card in the past and it worked just fine. I could overclock that card like mad, but each card is different and you might not get very good results as you were expecting.
How do you turn up nvidia fan speed without rivatuner?
surely there has to be another way. installed it with a 9800gt but it said somethnig like 'win 64 driver could not be loaded' and therefore i cant change the fan speedthank youHow do you turn up nvidia fan speed without rivatuner?
If your card is EVGA, you can install EVGA precision and can change the fan speed from there. How do you turn up nvidia fan speed without rivatuner?
u use evga precision, works like a charm
My card isn't EVGA and i use the precision tool.
[QUOTE=''X360PS3AMD05'']My card isn't EVGA and i use the precision tool. [/QUOTE]
thank you ill try it
If your card is EVGA, you can install EVGA precision and can change the fan speed from there. How do you turn up nvidia fan speed without rivatuner?
u use evga precision, works like a charm
My card isn't EVGA and i use the precision tool.
[QUOTE=''X360PS3AMD05'']My card isn't EVGA and i use the precision tool. [/QUOTE]
thank you ill try it
Power Supply Amps Question
So I got an EVGA GTX 280 (Superclocked Edition), and it requires at least a 550W PSU. I had my eye on a 700W Thermaltake Toughpower PSU.While doing some further research, I found out that my card needs at least a minimum output of 40 Amps from the +12V rails. In the feature section in the above link, it says that the PSU has a combined loading of 56A. But if you go to the specification section, you will see a table showing that at the +12V we have an Output Current Max of 18A.Will this be enough for my VGA? And what should I look at? The combined or the single output?Power Supply Amps Question
Actually that psu has four 12v rails 18 a peice which means 72A combined total. It a very good psu, but it depends on the cost too.Power Supply Amps Question
If if your worried about the multiple 12v rails then this PSU is for you. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139011 -850hx.Here are some other choices that will power your pc just fine with extra juice to sparehttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139009 -850txhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006 750tx
thermaltake toughpower psu are realy good will last u years
the corsair 750^^^ is a nice deal;)
Actually I got a very good price on that Thermaltake PSU. The thing is, each pin from the latter provides 18A. So when I plug the 6-and 8-pin connectors, wouldn't I be providing my VGA with only 36A? So we would be a bit short on the juice, no?
[QUOTE=''samidiab'']Actually I got a very good price on that Thermaltake PSU. The thing is, each pin from the latter provides 18A. So when I plug the 6-and 8-pin connectors, wouldn't I be providing my VGA with only 36A? So we would be a bit short on the juice, no?[/QUOTE] 40A I believe is the recommended amount of amperage you should have on the 12 Volt rails. Keep in mind that your CPU and motherboard will also be drawing from the 12 volt rails as well.
[QUOTE=''samidiab'']Actually I got a very good price on that Thermaltake PSU. The thing is, each pin from the latter provides 18A. So when I plug the 6-and 8-pin connectors, wouldn't I be providing my VGA with only 36A? So we would be a bit short on the juice, no?[/QUOTE]
No, that not how it works. One the 12v rail provides the power to motherboard and the rest of the 12v Amperes gets used by the other parts. Pci-e power cables provide the wattage needed to the card or other parts inside the Pc .
Thanks for the much helpful input 04dcarraher, so do you recommend I buy the Thermaltake 700W PSU with my eyes closed? So there's plenty of juice it can provide...
[QUOTE=''samidiab'']Thanks for the much helpful input 04dcarraher, so do you recommend I buy the Thermaltake 700W PSU with my eyes closed? So there's plenty of juice it can provide...[/QUOTE]
If your getting a good deal for it the get it. If its under $160 then go for it.
[QUOTE=''samidiab'']So I got an EVGA GTX 280 (Superclocked Edition), and it requires at least a 550W PSU. I had my eye on a 700W Thermaltake Toughpower PSU.While doing some further research, I found out that my card needs at least a minimum output of 40 Amps from the +12V rails. In the feature section in the above link, it says that the PSU has a combined loading of 56A. But if you go to the specification section, you will see a table showing that at the +12V we have an Output Current Max of 18A.Will this be enough for my VGA? And what should I look at? The combined or the single output?[/QUOTE]That PSU will be enough for your setup, and also you wanna look at the combined Amps on all 12V rails together.I would recommend this modular Kingwin Mach 1 power supply, it has 4x 12V rails totalling 74Amps, 700W, total output is 750W, very reliable and never had an issue with it, and I've owned it for quite some time now. And it's only about $99.
[QUOTE=''gamer082009''][QUOTE=''samidiab'']So I got an EVGA GTX 280 (Superclocked Edition), and it requires at least a 550W PSU. I had my eye on a 700W Thermaltake Toughpower PSU.While doing some further research, I found out that my card needs at least a minimum output of 40 Amps from the +12V rails. In the feature section in the above link, it says that the PSU has a combined loading of 56A. But if you go to the specification section, you will see a table showing that at the +12V we have an Output Current Max of 18A.Will this be enough for my VGA? And what should I look at? The combined or the single output?[/QUOTE]That PSU will be enough for your setup, and also you wanna look at the combined Amps on all 12V rails together.I would recommend this modular Kingwin Mach 1 power supply, it has 4x 12V rails totalling 74Amps, 700W, total output is 750W, very reliable and never had an issue with it, and I've owned it for quite some time now. And it's only about $99.[/QUOTE] Just FYI, that Kingwin PSU only has 50a (600w) on the 12v rails. Not bad for a 700w unit, but if it were to have 74a, then it could push 888w. and that's just not gonna happen with a 700w unit.mask movie
Actually that psu has four 12v rails 18 a peice which means 72A combined total. It a very good psu, but it depends on the cost too.Power Supply Amps Question
If if your worried about the multiple 12v rails then this PSU is for you. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139011 -850hx.Here are some other choices that will power your pc just fine with extra juice to sparehttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139009 -850txhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006 750tx
thermaltake toughpower psu are realy good will last u years
the corsair 750^^^ is a nice deal;)
Actually I got a very good price on that Thermaltake PSU. The thing is, each pin from the latter provides 18A. So when I plug the 6-and 8-pin connectors, wouldn't I be providing my VGA with only 36A? So we would be a bit short on the juice, no?
[QUOTE=''samidiab'']Actually I got a very good price on that Thermaltake PSU. The thing is, each pin from the latter provides 18A. So when I plug the 6-and 8-pin connectors, wouldn't I be providing my VGA with only 36A? So we would be a bit short on the juice, no?[/QUOTE] 40A I believe is the recommended amount of amperage you should have on the 12 Volt rails. Keep in mind that your CPU and motherboard will also be drawing from the 12 volt rails as well.
[QUOTE=''samidiab'']Actually I got a very good price on that Thermaltake PSU. The thing is, each pin from the latter provides 18A. So when I plug the 6-and 8-pin connectors, wouldn't I be providing my VGA with only 36A? So we would be a bit short on the juice, no?[/QUOTE]
No, that not how it works. One the 12v rail provides the power to motherboard and the rest of the 12v Amperes gets used by the other parts. Pci-e power cables provide the wattage needed to the card or other parts inside the Pc .
Thanks for the much helpful input 04dcarraher, so do you recommend I buy the Thermaltake 700W PSU with my eyes closed? So there's plenty of juice it can provide...
[QUOTE=''samidiab'']Thanks for the much helpful input 04dcarraher, so do you recommend I buy the Thermaltake 700W PSU with my eyes closed? So there's plenty of juice it can provide...[/QUOTE]
If your getting a good deal for it the get it. If its under $160 then go for it.
[QUOTE=''samidiab'']So I got an EVGA GTX 280 (Superclocked Edition), and it requires at least a 550W PSU. I had my eye on a 700W Thermaltake Toughpower PSU.While doing some further research, I found out that my card needs at least a minimum output of 40 Amps from the +12V rails. In the feature section in the above link, it says that the PSU has a combined loading of 56A. But if you go to the specification section, you will see a table showing that at the +12V we have an Output Current Max of 18A.Will this be enough for my VGA? And what should I look at? The combined or the single output?[/QUOTE]That PSU will be enough for your setup, and also you wanna look at the combined Amps on all 12V rails together.I would recommend this modular Kingwin Mach 1 power supply, it has 4x 12V rails totalling 74Amps, 700W, total output is 750W, very reliable and never had an issue with it, and I've owned it for quite some time now. And it's only about $99.
[QUOTE=''gamer082009''][QUOTE=''samidiab'']So I got an EVGA GTX 280 (Superclocked Edition), and it requires at least a 550W PSU. I had my eye on a 700W Thermaltake Toughpower PSU.While doing some further research, I found out that my card needs at least a minimum output of 40 Amps from the +12V rails. In the feature section in the above link, it says that the PSU has a combined loading of 56A. But if you go to the specification section, you will see a table showing that at the +12V we have an Output Current Max of 18A.Will this be enough for my VGA? And what should I look at? The combined or the single output?[/QUOTE]That PSU will be enough for your setup, and also you wanna look at the combined Amps on all 12V rails together.I would recommend this modular Kingwin Mach 1 power supply, it has 4x 12V rails totalling 74Amps, 700W, total output is 750W, very reliable and never had an issue with it, and I've owned it for quite some time now. And it's only about $99.[/QUOTE] Just FYI, that Kingwin PSU only has 50a (600w) on the 12v rails. Not bad for a 700w unit, but if it were to have 74a, then it could push 888w. and that's just not gonna happen with a 700w unit.
Mirror's Edge on a Sempron 1.8GHz?????
Guys...I am very pround of my PC, I am using a Sempron 1.8GHz with 1GB DIMM running Mirror's Edge in Medium...
I think it's because my video card (Geforce 9500GT), but what do you think?
PS: I'm runnig Prototype too...Mirror's Edge on a Sempron 1.8GHz?????
Low resolutions ftwMirror's Edge on a Sempron 1.8GHz?????
[QUOTE=''MonsieurX'']Low resolutions ftw[/QUOTE]
1024x768, anti-al 16x, gfx details and shadows details medium, phisx on
[QUOTE=''RodrigoLCardoso''][QUOTE=''MonsieurX'']Low resolutions ftw[/QUOTE]
1024x768, anti-al 16x, gfx details and shadows details medium, phisx on[/QUOTE]
thats not bad...do you get dips in framerates often?
[QUOTE=''NSR34GTR''][QUOTE=''RodrigoLCardoso''][QUOTE=''MonsieurX'']Low resolutions ftw[/QUOTE]
1024x768, anti-al 16x, gfx details and shadows details medium, phisx on[/QUOTE]
thats not bad...do you get dips in framerates often?[/QUOTE]
I'm playing in 40-50 fps, it's playable...(I think)
No overclock on the processor? that is pretty cool, I have trouble running mirrors edge on my computer due to the poor graphics card ati hd 4600.
[QUOTE=''Cassius128'']No overclock on the processor? that is pretty cool, I have trouble running mirrors edge on my computer due to the poor graphics card ati hd 4600.[/QUOTE]
Yes! I've seen a lot of Core-Duo having troubles in Mirror's Edge. I'm spending money to buy Crysis.
[QUOTE=''RodrigoLCardoso''][QUOTE=''NSR34GTR''][QUOTE=''RodrigoLCardoso'']
1024x768, anti-al 16x, gfx details and shadows details medium, phisx on[/QUOTE]
thats not bad...do you get dips in framerates often?[/QUOTE]
I'm playing in 40-50 fps, it's playable...(I think)[/QUOTE]
thats good
I think it's because my video card (Geforce 9500GT), but what do you think?
PS: I'm runnig Prototype too...Mirror's Edge on a Sempron 1.8GHz?????
Low resolutions ftwMirror's Edge on a Sempron 1.8GHz?????
[QUOTE=''MonsieurX'']Low resolutions ftw[/QUOTE]
1024x768, anti-al 16x, gfx details and shadows details medium, phisx on
[QUOTE=''RodrigoLCardoso''][QUOTE=''MonsieurX'']Low resolutions ftw[/QUOTE]
1024x768, anti-al 16x, gfx details and shadows details medium, phisx on[/QUOTE]
thats not bad...do you get dips in framerates often?
[QUOTE=''NSR34GTR''][QUOTE=''RodrigoLCardoso''][QUOTE=''MonsieurX'']Low resolutions ftw[/QUOTE]
1024x768, anti-al 16x, gfx details and shadows details medium, phisx on[/QUOTE]
thats not bad...do you get dips in framerates often?[/QUOTE]
I'm playing in 40-50 fps, it's playable...(I think)
No overclock on the processor? that is pretty cool, I have trouble running mirrors edge on my computer due to the poor graphics card ati hd 4600.
[QUOTE=''Cassius128'']No overclock on the processor? that is pretty cool, I have trouble running mirrors edge on my computer due to the poor graphics card ati hd 4600.[/QUOTE]
Yes! I've seen a lot of Core-Duo having troubles in Mirror's Edge. I'm spending money to buy Crysis.
[QUOTE=''RodrigoLCardoso''][QUOTE=''NSR34GTR''][QUOTE=''RodrigoLCardoso'']
1024x768, anti-al 16x, gfx details and shadows details medium, phisx on[/QUOTE]
thats not bad...do you get dips in framerates often?[/QUOTE]
I'm playing in 40-50 fps, it's playable...(I think)[/QUOTE]
thats good
AntiVirus software?
Right now I'm using AVG Free 8.5, CCleaner, Ad-Aware Anniversary Edition, and Comodo Firewall. Any good other free software to help? Also is McAfee any good, or are there some programs to buy that are much better than the free ones?AntiVirus software?
Personally all I use is Avira AntiVir. I would recommend Zone Alarm if you need a firewall, but I am just fine with the windows firewall. That and that many programs will bog down your system unless you remove their realtime scanning functions. I personally find McAfee a huge system hog and I always have had issues with it.AntiVirus software?
Spybot Search %26 Destroy.
well, the antivir programs that are bought are usually better then free ones, they get updated WAY more, and more often, they have a truckload of active scans running all the time, unlike alot of free ones.The list you wrote are some of the best free programs you can get at all tho, and most of them are so close to bought programs, that the difference is moot.The antivir tho, AVG is good for a free antivir, but even so its not insanely effective.Mcafee has a good antivir scanner, and active scanner (often catches the virus before it can get the chance to enter the pc at all) But havent used it for quite some time, altho as I understand it they both use the same actural antivir scanner (McAfee is pretty much a bundle of smaller scanners licecened elsewhere).It also has a quite good firewall, and antispyware/malware scannerThat scanner it uses is often claimed to be the best in the world. Also Mcafee, is very easy to use, and uses very little power from your PC, unlike certain other known brands -.-
[QUOTE=''Maddie_Larkin''] Also Mcafee, is very easy to use, and uses very little power from your PC, unlike certain other known brands -.-[/QUOTE]I would have to disagree with that statement incredibly so. In my experience of using the McAfee security suite a year ago, it was a horrible system hog. My system took almost an additional miniute to boot, games ran slower, and it was incredibly difficult to uninstall and never worked against the only virus I had with it.
Malwarebytes' Anti-MalwareThough no matter how much anti-virus, spam, malwaver..etc programs you get, all that matters is the user.
[QUOTE=''Luminouslight''][QUOTE=''Maddie_Larkin''] Also Mcafee, is very easy to use, and uses very little power from your PC, unlike certain other known brands -.-[/QUOTE]I would have to disagree with that statement incredibly so. In my experience of using the McAfee security suite a year ago, it was a horrible system hog. My system took almost an additional miniute to boot, games ran slower, and it was incredibly difficult to uninstall and never worked against the only virus I had with it.[/QUOTE]You are right. As much as I hate to tell people to never get Mcafee, I still do it. Like you said, the side effect it has on the computer overall is just crazy.
[QUOTE=''RedWolves_'']Right now I'm using AVG Free 8.5, CCleaner, Ad-Aware Anniversary Edition, and Comodo Firewall. Any good other free software to help? Also is McAfee any good, or are there some programs to buy that are much better than the free ones?[/QUOTE]
Ok, try to use these softwares, Avast! and avira.
[QUOTE=''RedWolves_'']Right now I'm using AVG Free 8.5, CCleaner, Ad-Aware Anniversary Edition, and Comodo Firewall. Any good other free software to help? Also is McAfee any good, or are there some programs to buy that are much better than the free ones?[/QUOTE]Kaspersky all the way, trust me.
The best program I've ever used it ESET Nod32 Smart Security and Anti-Virus. Better than AVG, Avast, Mccafe and all the rest imo.
[QUOTE=''kaitanuvax'']Spybot Search %26 Destroy.[/QUOTE]
I use this too, but it isn't a AV.... I suggest Avast if your going for free AV's.
Personally all I use is Avira AntiVir. I would recommend Zone Alarm if you need a firewall, but I am just fine with the windows firewall. That and that many programs will bog down your system unless you remove their realtime scanning functions. I personally find McAfee a huge system hog and I always have had issues with it.AntiVirus software?
Spybot Search %26 Destroy.
well, the antivir programs that are bought are usually better then free ones, they get updated WAY more, and more often, they have a truckload of active scans running all the time, unlike alot of free ones.The list you wrote are some of the best free programs you can get at all tho, and most of them are so close to bought programs, that the difference is moot.The antivir tho, AVG is good for a free antivir, but even so its not insanely effective.Mcafee has a good antivir scanner, and active scanner (often catches the virus before it can get the chance to enter the pc at all) But havent used it for quite some time, altho as I understand it they both use the same actural antivir scanner (McAfee is pretty much a bundle of smaller scanners licecened elsewhere).It also has a quite good firewall, and antispyware/malware scannerThat scanner it uses is often claimed to be the best in the world. Also Mcafee, is very easy to use, and uses very little power from your PC, unlike certain other known brands -.-
[QUOTE=''Maddie_Larkin''] Also Mcafee, is very easy to use, and uses very little power from your PC, unlike certain other known brands -.-[/QUOTE]I would have to disagree with that statement incredibly so. In my experience of using the McAfee security suite a year ago, it was a horrible system hog. My system took almost an additional miniute to boot, games ran slower, and it was incredibly difficult to uninstall and never worked against the only virus I had with it.
Malwarebytes' Anti-MalwareThough no matter how much anti-virus, spam, malwaver..etc programs you get, all that matters is the user.
[QUOTE=''Luminouslight''][QUOTE=''Maddie_Larkin''] Also Mcafee, is very easy to use, and uses very little power from your PC, unlike certain other known brands -.-[/QUOTE]I would have to disagree with that statement incredibly so. In my experience of using the McAfee security suite a year ago, it was a horrible system hog. My system took almost an additional miniute to boot, games ran slower, and it was incredibly difficult to uninstall and never worked against the only virus I had with it.[/QUOTE]You are right. As much as I hate to tell people to never get Mcafee, I still do it. Like you said, the side effect it has on the computer overall is just crazy.
[QUOTE=''RedWolves_'']Right now I'm using AVG Free 8.5, CCleaner, Ad-Aware Anniversary Edition, and Comodo Firewall. Any good other free software to help? Also is McAfee any good, or are there some programs to buy that are much better than the free ones?[/QUOTE]
Ok, try to use these softwares, Avast! and avira.
[QUOTE=''RedWolves_'']Right now I'm using AVG Free 8.5, CCleaner, Ad-Aware Anniversary Edition, and Comodo Firewall. Any good other free software to help? Also is McAfee any good, or are there some programs to buy that are much better than the free ones?[/QUOTE]Kaspersky all the way, trust me.
The best program I've ever used it ESET Nod32 Smart Security and Anti-Virus. Better than AVG, Avast, Mccafe and all the rest imo.
[QUOTE=''kaitanuvax'']Spybot Search %26 Destroy.[/QUOTE]
I use this too, but it isn't a AV.... I suggest Avast if your going for free AV's.
Which Windows??
I'm about to purchase a new laptop. Which windows should i install? Vista, XP or upgrade to windows 7?Which Windows??
Err.........does it run wireless? If so Vista because WPA2 doesn't work with XP IIRC, if not XP for games. 7 comes out next month so you can wait until then, unless you don't plan on getting it for a while :? 7 RC is fine with me but if there are troubles with some software you'll get the line from whatever company ''We do not support beta OSes''. If you already own Vista some might say there's no point in getting 7, unless you don't have 64-bit. Which Windows??
Ok, I can't offer any sensible opinion about Vista vs Win7, but a couple of months ago I upgraded from XP (sp3) to Vista Home Premium. I was VERY nervous about the upgrade and in fact only did it because I was GIVEN the Vista Premium upgrade as a gift - otherwise I had no interest in getting into any possible compatibility issues and I had big concerns about game performance (there are benchmarks showing Vista performing slower than XP in at least some games).
The Vista installation process was very easy and troublefree - much quicker and easier than XP ever has been. General desktop and application performance is NOTICEABLY QUICKER than XP was - especially file handling processes (ie. copying and deleting files). Video encoding is also MUCH faster. So far I've had no compatibility problems with Far Cry, Operation Flashpoint GOTY or Clear Sky and am also having no problem running the old Secret of Monkey Island games (using Scumm VM) - which is something I always had problems with in XP. Performance of all these games is NOTICEABLY BETTER than is was in XP - ie. With Clear Sky in Vista I get the same fps performance with SSAO effects enabled and 2xAA as I had in XP with no AA and SSAO disabled - that's in BOTH DX9 and DX10 modes - and in DX10 mode I have water effects enabled as well as volumetric smoke (in DX9 AA has to be enabled thru Nvidia control panel profile, but in DX10 it's an ingame slider option).
In short: anyone nervous about upgrading to Vista - DON'T BE! It works fine and seems to be outperforming XP no sweat.
[QUOTE=''Neoquesty'']I'm about to purchase a new laptop. Which windows should i install? Vista, XP or upgrade to windows 7?[/QUOTE]Definitely Windows 7. Don't be left behind, I try to move ahead as much as possible even when people go on these anti-Microsoft tirades. You'll thank yourself in the long run, many many people have already praised Windows 7 as finally it.
Upgrade to WIn7 dude much better peformance for laptops and desktops.
Ultimately, you'll want Windows 7. Whether you wait on the laptop until its available or buy one with Vista that include a free Win 7 upgrade.
Vista. But if I were you, I'd wait for Windows 7 being installed in my laptop from the manufacturer.October 22nd is not long to go isn't it? So why not you just wait?
Err.........does it run wireless? If so Vista because WPA2 doesn't work with XP IIRC, if not XP for games. 7 comes out next month so you can wait until then, unless you don't plan on getting it for a while :? 7 RC is fine with me but if there are troubles with some software you'll get the line from whatever company ''We do not support beta OSes''. If you already own Vista some might say there's no point in getting 7, unless you don't have 64-bit. Which Windows??
Ok, I can't offer any sensible opinion about Vista vs Win7, but a couple of months ago I upgraded from XP (sp3) to Vista Home Premium. I was VERY nervous about the upgrade and in fact only did it because I was GIVEN the Vista Premium upgrade as a gift - otherwise I had no interest in getting into any possible compatibility issues and I had big concerns about game performance (there are benchmarks showing Vista performing slower than XP in at least some games).
The Vista installation process was very easy and troublefree - much quicker and easier than XP ever has been. General desktop and application performance is NOTICEABLY QUICKER than XP was - especially file handling processes (ie. copying and deleting files). Video encoding is also MUCH faster. So far I've had no compatibility problems with Far Cry, Operation Flashpoint GOTY or Clear Sky and am also having no problem running the old Secret of Monkey Island games (using Scumm VM) - which is something I always had problems with in XP. Performance of all these games is NOTICEABLY BETTER than is was in XP - ie. With Clear Sky in Vista I get the same fps performance with SSAO effects enabled and 2xAA as I had in XP with no AA and SSAO disabled - that's in BOTH DX9 and DX10 modes - and in DX10 mode I have water effects enabled as well as volumetric smoke (in DX9 AA has to be enabled thru Nvidia control panel profile, but in DX10 it's an ingame slider option).
In short: anyone nervous about upgrading to Vista - DON'T BE! It works fine and seems to be outperforming XP no sweat.
[QUOTE=''Neoquesty'']I'm about to purchase a new laptop. Which windows should i install? Vista, XP or upgrade to windows 7?[/QUOTE]Definitely Windows 7. Don't be left behind, I try to move ahead as much as possible even when people go on these anti-Microsoft tirades. You'll thank yourself in the long run, many many people have already praised Windows 7 as finally it.
Upgrade to WIn7 dude much better peformance for laptops and desktops.
Ultimately, you'll want Windows 7. Whether you wait on the laptop until its available or buy one with Vista that include a free Win 7 upgrade.
Vista. But if I were you, I'd wait for Windows 7 being installed in my laptop from the manufacturer.October 22nd is not long to go isn't it? So why not you just wait?
Is this computer good for $800?
Motherboard: ASUS A8N32-SLI deluxeCPU: AMD Athlon 64 FX-60 DualCore Socket-939 2.6GHZMemory: Corsair 2GB XMS-3500LLPRO TwinX memory kitGraphics: ASUS EN7900GTX x2 in SLiHard Drive: Western Digital, RaptorX 150GBPower Supply: 600W EnermaxCase: Armnor Thermaltake Full Tower with excellent air coolingSound Card: X-Fi Fatal 1 ty FPSDVD Drives: Nec x2 for easy DVD writing7-1 card reader floppy drivewill this compy run games like crysis on high? found on craigslistIs this computer good for $800?
[QUOTE=''Crispenz'']Motherboard: ASUS A8N32-SLI deluxeCPU: AMD Athlon 64 FX-60 DualCore Socket-939 2.6GHZMemory: Corsair 2GB XMS-3500LLPRO TwinX memory kitGraphics: ASUS EN7900GTX x2 in SLiHard Drive: Western Digital, RaptorX 150GBPower Supply: 600W EnermaxCase: Armnor Thermaltake Full Tower with excellent air coolingSound Card: X-Fi Fatal 1 ty FPSDVD Drives: Nec x2 for easy DVD writing7-1 card reader floppy drivewill this compy run games like crysis on high? found on craigslist[/QUOTE] Well speaking of Craiglist my friend on here RedXSniper is trying to sell his Gaming Rig. You can find the specs in his Sig and he recently started a thread on here called it's been a week....Please help my friend out cause he desperatly wants to sell his rig. Also you can find him on my friends list and send him a PM if you like. His Rig also has much much better specs than the one you mentioned. It has a Intel Core 2 Quad Q9400 2.66 GHz, Gigabyte P45 motherboard, a 320GB SATA 2 Hard Drive, 4GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 RAM, a Corsair TX750 power supply, a Cooler Master CM690 Case, and an XFX 4890 1GB video card. He has the Windows 7 RC installed on it as well. So please at least talk to him about it cause he was selling it for around the same price. (Assuming you're in the US)Is this computer good for $800?
You could build a better rig then that for $800.That PC SUCKS.
Hey. Yeah i'm trying to sell the computer in my signature. Mine is also on craiglist, here's the link: http://toledo.craigslist.org/sys/1353749879.html This computer can run games on max, even crysis. But on crysis, when i play it, i max everything except AA and AF. If your interested pm me, and if you don't live in my area we could work something out like a paypal or something. And i'm not saying this just so you can buy this computer, but my computer completely trashes the one you mentioned.
Talk about being ripped off. You might as well buy from Alienware
[QUOTE=''Berserker1_5'']Talk about being ripped off. You might as well buy from Alienware[/QUOTE]
Alienware might be too expensive for his budget though. But I know what you're saying.
Good for $200 maybe.........
[QUOTE=''kilerchese'']You could build a better rig then that for $800.That PC SUCKS.[/QUOTE]
You could find a pre-built that is better than that for $800!!!
wow thats horrible buy for 800$ getting ripped off tremendously 400$ custom built will perform better then that pc let alone a 800$ custom build it would DESTROY that pc. :lol: sli 7900gtx that's so last gen a single 4850 will be way better and a slow dual core and only 2G or ram the only good thing about it is the case defintly not worth 800$.
i would reccomend you buy this pc http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Configurators.aspx?mid=72you can customise it to how you want but i reccomend changing the graphics card to a gts 250 1G instead of a 9800gt 1G it doesn't change thep rice at all and the gts250 is faster and getting a E8400 instead of a E8500 you will save money and barely notice the speed diffrence you can just overclock it anyways for free. use the money you saved add better cooling to the pc.
This is NOT a good deal at all. I would highly recommend trying to build it yourself. It will require some work but you will learn a whole lot and have a lot of fun researching and putting it together. Not to mention it often times comes out cheaper.
You should build one yourself and get a 4890 vapor-x 2gb editioni would think u couldafford that on an $800 build however im from england and im not sure what the ?to $ exchange is at the moment but u should defintly go for an ati card best performancefor theprice.u can get a 4890 vapor-x oc'ed to 1000/1100 i think.maybe a Q6600 Quad Core for around $100I'd recommend kingston ddr2 1066 mhz get atleast 4gb unless u have vista 32 bit then get3gbasus p5q pro motherboard for around $100You can definetly get a better PC than the one u suggested.
god that is a terrible pc!! DO NOT BUY!!! worth 300$ TOPS!
Um just build it from Newegg. If you choose the parts there you might get a better price but upgrade the video cards everything else is fine.
That's a great pc for 2006... LOL.I had something similar to that. The CPU was dam expensive back when it first came out. It's practically worthless now.
if he want a good that play 1680x1050 / 1920x1200 for 800-1000$ il Look foward build that on newegg.com / microcenter if he live in a city that as one of there store for 800$ i think could get someting or is near to have someting as build below
Phenom II X4 955
790FX motherboard
2x2gB DDR3
HD5870 at Release
650-750W PSU
HDD of 500-640-1TB 7200:12 Seagate or WD black Caviar 500-1TB
CM 690(case)
if he overclock you add a cpu cooler you get a CPU at 3.8Ghz around and it will do about same performance as Core i7 920 : while core i7 920 cost more then Phenom II X4 Build by a small % but for 800$ he could get nearly someting as i said here
[QUOTE=''Crispenz'']Motherboard: ASUS A8N32-SLI deluxeCPU: AMD Athlon 64 FX-60 DualCore Socket-939 2.6GHZMemory: Corsair 2GB XMS-3500LLPRO TwinX memory kitGraphics: ASUS EN7900GTX x2 in SLiHard Drive: Western Digital, RaptorX 150GBPower Supply: 600W EnermaxCase: Armnor Thermaltake Full Tower with excellent air coolingSound Card: X-Fi Fatal 1 ty FPSDVD Drives: Nec x2 for easy DVD writing7-1 card reader floppy drivewill this compy run games like crysis on high? found on craigslist[/QUOTE] Well speaking of Craiglist my friend on here RedXSniper is trying to sell his Gaming Rig. You can find the specs in his Sig and he recently started a thread on here called it's been a week....Please help my friend out cause he desperatly wants to sell his rig. Also you can find him on my friends list and send him a PM if you like. His Rig also has much much better specs than the one you mentioned. It has a Intel Core 2 Quad Q9400 2.66 GHz, Gigabyte P45 motherboard, a 320GB SATA 2 Hard Drive, 4GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 RAM, a Corsair TX750 power supply, a Cooler Master CM690 Case, and an XFX 4890 1GB video card. He has the Windows 7 RC installed on it as well. So please at least talk to him about it cause he was selling it for around the same price. (Assuming you're in the US)Is this computer good for $800?
You could build a better rig then that for $800.That PC SUCKS.
Hey. Yeah i'm trying to sell the computer in my signature. Mine is also on craiglist, here's the link: http://toledo.craigslist.org/sys/1353749879.html This computer can run games on max, even crysis. But on crysis, when i play it, i max everything except AA and AF. If your interested pm me, and if you don't live in my area we could work something out like a paypal or something. And i'm not saying this just so you can buy this computer, but my computer completely trashes the one you mentioned.
Talk about being ripped off. You might as well buy from Alienware
[QUOTE=''Berserker1_5'']Talk about being ripped off. You might as well buy from Alienware[/QUOTE]
Alienware might be too expensive for his budget though. But I know what you're saying.
Good for $200 maybe.........
[QUOTE=''kilerchese'']You could build a better rig then that for $800.That PC SUCKS.[/QUOTE]
You could find a pre-built that is better than that for $800!!!
wow thats horrible buy for 800$ getting ripped off tremendously 400$ custom built will perform better then that pc let alone a 800$ custom build it would DESTROY that pc. :lol: sli 7900gtx that's so last gen a single 4850 will be way better and a slow dual core and only 2G or ram the only good thing about it is the case defintly not worth 800$.
i would reccomend you buy this pc http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Configurators.aspx?mid=72you can customise it to how you want but i reccomend changing the graphics card to a gts 250 1G instead of a 9800gt 1G it doesn't change thep rice at all and the gts250 is faster and getting a E8400 instead of a E8500 you will save money and barely notice the speed diffrence you can just overclock it anyways for free. use the money you saved add better cooling to the pc.
This is NOT a good deal at all. I would highly recommend trying to build it yourself. It will require some work but you will learn a whole lot and have a lot of fun researching and putting it together. Not to mention it often times comes out cheaper.
You should build one yourself and get a 4890 vapor-x 2gb editioni would think u couldafford that on an $800 build however im from england and im not sure what the ?to $ exchange is at the moment but u should defintly go for an ati card best performancefor theprice.u can get a 4890 vapor-x oc'ed to 1000/1100 i think.maybe a Q6600 Quad Core for around $100I'd recommend kingston ddr2 1066 mhz get atleast 4gb unless u have vista 32 bit then get3gbasus p5q pro motherboard for around $100You can definetly get a better PC than the one u suggested.
god that is a terrible pc!! DO NOT BUY!!! worth 300$ TOPS!
Um just build it from Newegg. If you choose the parts there you might get a better price but upgrade the video cards everything else is fine.
That's a great pc for 2006... LOL.I had something similar to that. The CPU was dam expensive back when it first came out. It's practically worthless now.
if he want a good that play 1680x1050 / 1920x1200 for 800-1000$ il Look foward build that on newegg.com / microcenter if he live in a city that as one of there store for 800$ i think could get someting or is near to have someting as build below
Phenom II X4 955
790FX motherboard
2x2gB DDR3
HD5870 at Release
650-750W PSU
HDD of 500-640-1TB 7200:12 Seagate or WD black Caviar 500-1TB
CM 690(case)
if he overclock you add a cpu cooler you get a CPU at 3.8Ghz around and it will do about same performance as Core i7 920 : while core i7 920 cost more then Phenom II X4 Build by a small % but for 800$ he could get nearly someting as i said here
new ATI cards.. whats a Soft Launch ?
Hey guys i recently returned my Nvidia GTX 275 card since i heard that the new ATI cards come out on the 10th of this month... What is soft launch i keep hearing about ? Is it only a limited amount of them will be awailable ?new ATI cards.. whats a Soft Launch ?
Yes. It's usually limited to review sites and a very small number of retail units, such that they are sold out the day they're released.new ATI cards.. whats a Soft Launch ?
A soft launch is really just the release of the cardto show the product and allow testers and a select few to review them. Most likely you wont see them on the market until Oct.
Where it's sold out at the egg for like months.
Think ''paper launch''. ATi will claim they've launched the card, but you won't be able to find anyone that would have one for sale, much less be able to buy it.
Just like when they released the X800 XTPE... even though ATi designated the PE as ''Platinum Edition'', it became more appropriately called ''Phantom Edition'' because nobody on the planet could seem to be able to get one. Which only became more frustrating when all the major reviewers got their hands on them and were spouting off about their benefits.
Yes. It's usually limited to review sites and a very small number of retail units, such that they are sold out the day they're released.new ATI cards.. whats a Soft Launch ?
A soft launch is really just the release of the cardto show the product and allow testers and a select few to review them. Most likely you wont see them on the market until Oct.
Where it's sold out at the egg for like months.
Think ''paper launch''. ATi will claim they've launched the card, but you won't be able to find anyone that would have one for sale, much less be able to buy it.
Just like when they released the X800 XTPE... even though ATi designated the PE as ''Platinum Edition'', it became more appropriately called ''Phantom Edition'' because nobody on the planet could seem to be able to get one. Which only became more frustrating when all the major reviewers got their hands on them and were spouting off about their benefits.
could u help me please!
wat would be better intel core 2 duo E8400 or the intel core quad Q8200 and wat is better Novatech GeForce 9800GT SLI 1GB GDDR3 HDMI/DVI PCI-Express - Retail with PhysX, CUDA %26 3D Stereo i just copyed that from a website or Gainward ATI Radeon HD 4850 ''Golden Sample'' 512MB GDDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI/HDMI copyed that to i just need 2 no witch is better out of the graphics card because there cheaper then other like ?0 so i was thinkin of get 2 and for the procsessor i just dno witch is better.could u help me please!
I guess it might depend on what games you are playing but personally I would go with e8400 and the 9800GT 1gb SLI.Also if you are overclocking then there's no contest, the e8400 is a great cpu.could u help me please!
The 4850 is better than the 9800GT.
confused :( ur sayin 4850 is better he sayin 9800 is better so witch 1 ? i wanna no witch is accutly better no an opinoin but thanks and im thinkin im gonna go for the intel core 2 duo E8400
the 4850 is the better card.
Single cards I would agree that hd4850 would be better but I thought I read that you would have the 9800GT in SLI, which I would think is better than a single hd4850
Go for the 4850, it's a really good card. Between the processors it's up to you, the dual core would be better for games right now, but games are starting to use more than 2 cores, but that quad core is only 2.3 so I would still pick the dual core.
well i dont no alot about computer i just wanta computer wat will run games in high quality but i wonderin can u have 2 hd4850 or 9800 1gb? or do u have to have 512mb but the 9800 and hd4850 are the same price and for 1 gb its ? more so i was thinkin of 2 hd4850 1gb will that work? or 2 9800 1gb but it looks like im going for hd4850 but i might go for the quad core now. and the graphics cards i choose is neraly the same price same with the processer like ?0 for graphic card ?00 for processer
but wat if i had 2 hd4850 then would that be way better than 9800 is it SLI u say i dno wat it means but i think it means 2 graphics cards?
[QUOTE=''winny321'']wat would be better intel core 2 duo E8400 or the intel core quad Q8200 and wat is better Novatech GeForce 9800GT SLI 1GB GDDR3 HDMI/DVI PCI-Express - Retail with PhysX, CUDA %26 3D Stereo i just copyed that from a website or Gainward ATI Radeon HD 4850 ''Golden Sample'' 512MB GDDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI/HDMI copyed that to i just need 2 no witch is better out of the graphics card because there cheaper then other like ?0 so i was thinkin of get 2 and for the procsessor i just dno witch is better.[/QUOTE]
e8400
get the e8400
i5?
[QUOTE=''clyde46'']i5?[/QUOTE]
the reviews look great
i5 %26 core i7 870 look a bit great but still weaker then 920 D0 Stepping OC at 4.0/4.2Ghz anytime
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/intel_corei5750_corei7870/14.htm
Other alternative would be Looking if it more expensive to get Phenom II X4 955 + Cpu cooler then oc it 3.8Ghz with a 790FX motherboard
But if the Core i5 / core i7 870 reveal to cost less and perform as good when oc you may go with itmask movie
I guess it might depend on what games you are playing but personally I would go with e8400 and the 9800GT 1gb SLI.Also if you are overclocking then there's no contest, the e8400 is a great cpu.could u help me please!
The 4850 is better than the 9800GT.
confused :( ur sayin 4850 is better he sayin 9800 is better so witch 1 ? i wanna no witch is accutly better no an opinoin but thanks and im thinkin im gonna go for the intel core 2 duo E8400
the 4850 is the better card.
Single cards I would agree that hd4850 would be better but I thought I read that you would have the 9800GT in SLI, which I would think is better than a single hd4850
Go for the 4850, it's a really good card. Between the processors it's up to you, the dual core would be better for games right now, but games are starting to use more than 2 cores, but that quad core is only 2.3 so I would still pick the dual core.
well i dont no alot about computer i just wanta computer wat will run games in high quality but i wonderin can u have 2 hd4850 or 9800 1gb? or do u have to have 512mb but the 9800 and hd4850 are the same price and for 1 gb its ? more so i was thinkin of 2 hd4850 1gb will that work? or 2 9800 1gb but it looks like im going for hd4850 but i might go for the quad core now. and the graphics cards i choose is neraly the same price same with the processer like ?0 for graphic card ?00 for processer
but wat if i had 2 hd4850 then would that be way better than 9800 is it SLI u say i dno wat it means but i think it means 2 graphics cards?
[QUOTE=''winny321'']wat would be better intel core 2 duo E8400 or the intel core quad Q8200 and wat is better Novatech GeForce 9800GT SLI 1GB GDDR3 HDMI/DVI PCI-Express - Retail with PhysX, CUDA %26 3D Stereo i just copyed that from a website or Gainward ATI Radeon HD 4850 ''Golden Sample'' 512MB GDDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI/HDMI copyed that to i just need 2 no witch is better out of the graphics card because there cheaper then other like ?0 so i was thinkin of get 2 and for the procsessor i just dno witch is better.[/QUOTE]
e8400
get the e8400
i5?
[QUOTE=''clyde46'']i5?[/QUOTE]
the reviews look great
i5 %26 core i7 870 look a bit great but still weaker then 920 D0 Stepping OC at 4.0/4.2Ghz anytime
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/intel_corei5750_corei7870/14.htm
Other alternative would be Looking if it more expensive to get Phenom II X4 955 + Cpu cooler then oc it 3.8Ghz with a 790FX motherboard
But if the Core i5 / core i7 870 reveal to cost less and perform as good when oc you may go with it
What would you do with the touch screen on this?
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/148604i dont get what it could be used forWhat would you do with the touch screen on this?
Probably has a VGA or DVI output so you can use it as a monitor? :P .What would you do with the touch screen on this?
Well I have seen some companies that use that lcd to do one touch overclocking!
i was thinking of getting one but becuase its not a well known brand i dont know how good its going to be
have it display cpu speed and let me monitor all my temps?
Or an interface for some type of media program for a media center PC.
[QUOTE=''johnny27'']have it display cpu speed and let me monitor all my temps?[/QUOTE]
seems a bit over the top when some cases just come with a display
that would actually be kind of cool....
ON/OFF...Temperatures...media centre...nice pictures?Nothing too big, but it's a nice little feature. I would love to turn on my computer via a touch screen :P
Build a computer with it and sell it to someone for alot more than the parts; alopt of people hear keywords and pull out their wallets, ''touchscreen'' being one.
[QUOTE=''smc91352'']Build a computer with it and sell it to someone for alot more than the parts; alopt of people hear keywords and pull out their wallets, ''touchscreen'' being one.[/QUOTE]
:P you think like me
I'd rather have a touch screen monitor.
[QUOTE=''Recontrooper'']Well I have seen some companies that use that lcd to do one touch overclocking![/QUOTE]I've seen that as well, but the name of the company I saw slips my mind at the moment. You could OC with one press, show component speeds and temps, access your media quickly, and all that kind of stuff lol.
there are some HTPCs that have them for use in the living room or whatever, i don't know to what extent they would be effective, but it could cut down the need for a keyboard and mouse
[QUOTE=''Cheveros'']there are some HTPCs that have them for use in the living room or whatever, i don't know to what extent they would be effective, but it could cut down the need for a keyboard and mouse[/QUOTE]
this is what im trying to find out. is there really a point to it?
[QUOTE=''NSR34GTR''][QUOTE=''Cheveros'']there are some HTPCs that have them for use in the living room or whatever, i don't know to what extent they would be effective, but it could cut down the need for a keyboard and mouse[/QUOTE]
this is what im trying to find out. is there really a point to it?[/QUOTE]
it would simply the procces to where my mother might actually understand it :P just touch the music icon for music etc. although personally i would rather have a remote if i built a HTPC that way i don't have to stand go to the tower to operate it and just control it from my couch
[QUOTE=''NSR34GTR''][QUOTE=''Cheveros'']there are some HTPCs that have them for use in the living room or whatever, i don't know to what extent they would be effective, but it could cut down the need for a keyboard and mouse[/QUOTE]
this is what im trying to find out. is there really a point to it?[/QUOTE]If people want it, I am sure that doesn't even matter anymore :P .
Probably has a VGA or DVI output so you can use it as a monitor? :P .What would you do with the touch screen on this?
Well I have seen some companies that use that lcd to do one touch overclocking!
i was thinking of getting one but becuase its not a well known brand i dont know how good its going to be
have it display cpu speed and let me monitor all my temps?
Or an interface for some type of media program for a media center PC.
[QUOTE=''johnny27'']have it display cpu speed and let me monitor all my temps?[/QUOTE]
seems a bit over the top when some cases just come with a display
that would actually be kind of cool....
ON/OFF...Temperatures...media centre...nice pictures?Nothing too big, but it's a nice little feature. I would love to turn on my computer via a touch screen :P
Build a computer with it and sell it to someone for alot more than the parts; alopt of people hear keywords and pull out their wallets, ''touchscreen'' being one.
[QUOTE=''smc91352'']Build a computer with it and sell it to someone for alot more than the parts; alopt of people hear keywords and pull out their wallets, ''touchscreen'' being one.[/QUOTE]
:P you think like me
I'd rather have a touch screen monitor.
[QUOTE=''Recontrooper'']Well I have seen some companies that use that lcd to do one touch overclocking![/QUOTE]I've seen that as well, but the name of the company I saw slips my mind at the moment. You could OC with one press, show component speeds and temps, access your media quickly, and all that kind of stuff lol.
there are some HTPCs that have them for use in the living room or whatever, i don't know to what extent they would be effective, but it could cut down the need for a keyboard and mouse
[QUOTE=''Cheveros'']there are some HTPCs that have them for use in the living room or whatever, i don't know to what extent they would be effective, but it could cut down the need for a keyboard and mouse[/QUOTE]
this is what im trying to find out. is there really a point to it?
[QUOTE=''NSR34GTR''][QUOTE=''Cheveros'']there are some HTPCs that have them for use in the living room or whatever, i don't know to what extent they would be effective, but it could cut down the need for a keyboard and mouse[/QUOTE]
this is what im trying to find out. is there really a point to it?[/QUOTE]
it would simply the procces to where my mother might actually understand it :P just touch the music icon for music etc. although personally i would rather have a remote if i built a HTPC that way i don't have to stand go to the tower to operate it and just control it from my couch
[QUOTE=''NSR34GTR''][QUOTE=''Cheveros'']there are some HTPCs that have them for use in the living room or whatever, i don't know to what extent they would be effective, but it could cut down the need for a keyboard and mouse[/QUOTE]
this is what im trying to find out. is there really a point to it?[/QUOTE]If people want it, I am sure that doesn't even matter anymore :P .
PSU problems
Hi, I use a Dell 390 Precision for all the running of my office based programs, its a decent spec and about 16 months old and I use it now and again for gaming (within its limitations) as I have a Matrox triplehead card attached.
I'm in the process of building a new gaming pc but in the meantime I wanted to test my new graphics card in the Dell (It's a Radeon HD4850 x2). This is where I run into problems. In order to run the card properly it needs a bigger psu than the 375W in the Dell.
I have a new Corsair 750W psu but if I install this the Dell won't boot up into windows no matter what I try. I can see my two hard discs in the BIOS but the computer just won't boot. At first I thought the Corsair psu was faulty but I installed it into an old HP Compaq which I use as a back up pc and it worked fine.
So, two questions;
1: Is it possible the Corsair psu is not compatible with the Dell machine, why won't it work?
2: Does anyone have any ideas as to what psu I can use which will work in the Dell machine. I have asked Dell this question but nobody there will give me an answer.
RegardsPSU problems
[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]PSU problems
Just hook the graphics card up to the power supply, and then jump out (short the green wire to any black wire) the Corsair to start it up. That should give you plenty of power for the graphics card.
[QUOTE=''RayvinAzn'']Just hook the graphics card up to the power supply, and then jump out (short the green wire to any black wire) the Corsair to start it up. That should give you plenty of power for the graphics card.[/QUOTE]
Sorry I don't quite follow you there, the Dell won't boot into windows with the Corsair and the graphics card installed. How will shorting the green wire to any black make a difference?
[QUOTE=''Paris_Stilton'']
Sorry I don't quite follow you there, the Dell won't boot into windows with the Corsair and the graphics card installed. How will shorting the green wire to any black make a difference?[/QUOTE]
Ah, I should have made that more clear. Keep the Dell unit inside the case and all hooked up to the computer, but leave the side panel off. Then hook the Corsair's PCI-e power connectors to the HD4850X2, and hook the Corsair up to the wall. The power supply won't start like that alone, so you'll need to jump the green wire on the 24-pin connector to any of the black wires on the same connector. Turn the Corsair on first, then turn on the Dell, and the HD4850X2 will essentially have its own dedicated power supply to run off of, and should work just fine with your setup.
[QUOTE=''RayvinAzn''][QUOTE=''Paris_Stilton'']
Sorry I don't quite follow you there, the Dell won't boot into windows with the Corsair and the graphics card installed. How will shorting the green wire to any black make a difference?[/QUOTE]
Ah, I should have made that more clear. Keep the Dell unit inside the case and all hooked up to the computer, but leave the side panel off. Then hook the Corsair's PCI-e power connectors to the HD4850X2, and hook the Corsair up to the wall. The power supply won't start like that alone, so you'll need to jump the green wire on the 24-pin connector to any of the black wires on the same connector. Turn the Corsair on first, then turn on the Dell, and the HD4850X2 will essentially have its own dedicated power supply to run off of, and should work just fine with your setup.[/QUOTE]
I understand now, thank you. I'll give it a go and see what happens altho if I'm not back within 2 hours can someone come looking for me ;)
I'm in the process of building a new gaming pc but in the meantime I wanted to test my new graphics card in the Dell (It's a Radeon HD4850 x2). This is where I run into problems. In order to run the card properly it needs a bigger psu than the 375W in the Dell.
I have a new Corsair 750W psu but if I install this the Dell won't boot up into windows no matter what I try. I can see my two hard discs in the BIOS but the computer just won't boot. At first I thought the Corsair psu was faulty but I installed it into an old HP Compaq which I use as a back up pc and it worked fine.
So, two questions;
1: Is it possible the Corsair psu is not compatible with the Dell machine, why won't it work?
2: Does anyone have any ideas as to what psu I can use which will work in the Dell machine. I have asked Dell this question but nobody there will give me an answer.
RegardsPSU problems
[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]PSU problems
Just hook the graphics card up to the power supply, and then jump out (short the green wire to any black wire) the Corsair to start it up. That should give you plenty of power for the graphics card.
[QUOTE=''RayvinAzn'']Just hook the graphics card up to the power supply, and then jump out (short the green wire to any black wire) the Corsair to start it up. That should give you plenty of power for the graphics card.[/QUOTE]
Sorry I don't quite follow you there, the Dell won't boot into windows with the Corsair and the graphics card installed. How will shorting the green wire to any black make a difference?
[QUOTE=''Paris_Stilton'']
Sorry I don't quite follow you there, the Dell won't boot into windows with the Corsair and the graphics card installed. How will shorting the green wire to any black make a difference?[/QUOTE]
Ah, I should have made that more clear. Keep the Dell unit inside the case and all hooked up to the computer, but leave the side panel off. Then hook the Corsair's PCI-e power connectors to the HD4850X2, and hook the Corsair up to the wall. The power supply won't start like that alone, so you'll need to jump the green wire on the 24-pin connector to any of the black wires on the same connector. Turn the Corsair on first, then turn on the Dell, and the HD4850X2 will essentially have its own dedicated power supply to run off of, and should work just fine with your setup.
[QUOTE=''RayvinAzn''][QUOTE=''Paris_Stilton'']
Sorry I don't quite follow you there, the Dell won't boot into windows with the Corsair and the graphics card installed. How will shorting the green wire to any black make a difference?[/QUOTE]
Ah, I should have made that more clear. Keep the Dell unit inside the case and all hooked up to the computer, but leave the side panel off. Then hook the Corsair's PCI-e power connectors to the HD4850X2, and hook the Corsair up to the wall. The power supply won't start like that alone, so you'll need to jump the green wire on the 24-pin connector to any of the black wires on the same connector. Turn the Corsair on first, then turn on the Dell, and the HD4850X2 will essentially have its own dedicated power supply to run off of, and should work just fine with your setup.[/QUOTE]
I understand now, thank you. I'll give it a go and see what happens altho if I'm not back within 2 hours can someone come looking for me ;)
need help with friends pc
My friend asked me to look at her pc for her and i dont know where to start. It powers on fine, goes to the windows xp welcome screen, then its all downhill from there. The screen just turns all weird looking. I can see a mouse cursor but cant move it. Ive tried diffent types of mice, so its not that (not that i thought it was). Ive tried safe mode, vga mode, and the like but none of that worked either. Like i said, the screen turns into weird looking colors and ive already tried 3 diffenrt monitors so thats not that problem either. She also cant find her restore disk. The funny thing is that the screen saver works and it is clear as a bell. Im lost here guys and need help. Also if it helps, it is a dell dimension 5100 with windows xp media center edition.need help with friends pc
Sounds like a graphical issue. Does the keyboard work? I would try a spare video card if you have one and see if that resolves the issue. If you can attempt to reinstall the drivers, that would be good. Otherwise, you may have to try a reformat.need help with friends pc
Ive also tried a different graphics card. The keyboard works in bios but i cant get it to do anything in windows. Even when i hit ctrl+alt+del, it still does nothing. It just goes to hell after the windows welcome screen.
Sounds like the OS is what we call in the business ''****ed''. It could also be a driver issue but either way unless you want to take many hours fixing it, and you'll have to do this by using her drive as a data drive on another PC, then i think your best option is a wipe and reload. If it's a virus or malware then it's got far too far into the system for a scan to do any good.
I suspect you'll to find a downloadable .iso for that restore disk.
[QUOTE=''hlcsbaby'']Ive also tried a different graphics card. The keyboard works in bios but i cant get it to do anything in windows. Even when i hit ctrl+alt+del, it still does nothing. It just goes to hell after the windows welcome screen. [/QUOTE]
Can you give me a pic of what the desktop looks like and the weird colors that you are mentioning? I'll try to help you as best I can.
Sounds like a graphical issue. Does the keyboard work? I would try a spare video card if you have one and see if that resolves the issue. If you can attempt to reinstall the drivers, that would be good. Otherwise, you may have to try a reformat.need help with friends pc
Ive also tried a different graphics card. The keyboard works in bios but i cant get it to do anything in windows. Even when i hit ctrl+alt+del, it still does nothing. It just goes to hell after the windows welcome screen.
Sounds like the OS is what we call in the business ''****ed''. It could also be a driver issue but either way unless you want to take many hours fixing it, and you'll have to do this by using her drive as a data drive on another PC, then i think your best option is a wipe and reload. If it's a virus or malware then it's got far too far into the system for a scan to do any good.
I suspect you'll to find a downloadable .iso for that restore disk.
[QUOTE=''hlcsbaby'']Ive also tried a different graphics card. The keyboard works in bios but i cant get it to do anything in windows. Even when i hit ctrl+alt+del, it still does nothing. It just goes to hell after the windows welcome screen. [/QUOTE]
Can you give me a pic of what the desktop looks like and the weird colors that you are mentioning? I'll try to help you as best I can.
fair share usage
What would you guys and girls say is fair in download rates because my broadband got cut off from bt because i downloaded 60gb of stuff. so what do you people think is a fair rate and also could anyone provide a good broadband provider. Thanks inadvancefair share usage
The fair rate is whatever they want it to be, they can just make it up. Virgin won't cut you off but they throttle a lot and any P2P downloading between 4pm and 12pm gets you throttled so much you might as well be disconnected.fair share usage
yeah i was thinking about getting virgin but i cant get cable in the area that i live in so do you know any other good provider thanks agian.
If you can't get cable Sky would be the first place i'ld look, if you get the full package with TV, phone and broadband you can get some great deals and cause it's satalite it's available everywhere
The fair rate is whatever they want it to be, they can just make it up. Virgin won't cut you off but they throttle a lot and any P2P downloading between 4pm and 12pm gets you throttled so much you might as well be disconnected.fair share usage
yeah i was thinking about getting virgin but i cant get cable in the area that i live in so do you know any other good provider thanks agian.
If you can't get cable Sky would be the first place i'ld look, if you get the full package with TV, phone and broadband you can get some great deals and cause it's satalite it's available everywhere
Desktop Icons & Mouse Flicker
Windows Vista Home 64-Bit (with Service Pack 2)I have recently run into a problem where whenever I click on the desktop (like an icon or the wallpaper) the mouse icon and icons on the desktop start flickering. This stops when I click on something outside the desktop, but I also found it happens when I try to use a web browser. It's almost like it constantly refreshes so it is unable to go anywhere. I tried system restore and it seems to only be a temporary fix. I have also tried defragging my registry, cleaning up files, scanning for adware, spyware, viruses, trojans, etc. and have come up with nothing. The problem started after I pulled my laptop from sleep. I always put it in sleep (the battery did not die or even get close to dying) but for some reason there was a problem this time. I did not go on any sites or do anything I don't normally do. I have not updated anything recently either.Thanks for any and all help.
Avoid mixed CrossfireX.
So I have two HD 4870 512MBs in CrossfireX, and my roommate has an HD 4850X2 2GB. We decided to swap out an HD 4870 for his HD 4850X2 to try out triple CrossfireX. My Crysis Warhead performance actually got worse with mixed triple CrossfireX vs matched dual card CrossfireX. Just though I'd share that, nice little experiment for the day, I think tomorrow I'll check if my 3Dmark06 score has gone up or down.Avoid mixed CrossfireX.
I thought crysis doesn't scale well with multiple video card setups?Avoid mixed CrossfireX.
[QUOTE=''samuraiguns'']I thought crysis doesn't scale well with multiple video card setups?[/QUOTE]
Well, any games scaling is limited once you go from two to three. There is definitely a difference going from one to two with Crysis. In this case though, adding roughly another 1 billion transistors into the mix hurt the performance. I think the mis-matched cards are wholly to blame. Not only are their clock speeds mismatched, so are their memory interfaces. Something tells me if I had an HD 4870X2 I would have seen a boost.
I believe this is because crossfire limits you to the speed of your slowest card meaning that your 4870 would only be running at the speed of a 4850.So what you have is 3x4850's and that obviously isn't going to beat 2x4870's
Mixed crossfire downclocks to speed of your cards to the slowest one
Yeah turns out 2 HD 4870s can outperform 4x HD 4770s. Hopefully CrossfireX in the future will scale better passed 2 cards. HD 4770 CrossfireX Review.
[QUOTE=''PcGamingRig'']Mixed crossfire downclocks to speed of your cards to the slowest one[/QUOTE]
Bingo! If you mixing cards. Make sure its from the same family. I.E. an 4870 and a 4780X2 can be Crossfired without much problem. I believe Jiggly uses a 3870 and a 3870X2 in a mixed setup.
You guys are missing the point, I'm totally aware mixed CrossfireX doesn't work as well. I'm just astonished that the scaling is so bad that 3 HD 4850s don't even perform as well as 2 HD 4870s. That's my point.
[QUOTE=''Marfoo'']You guys are missing the point, I'm totally aware mixed CrossfireX doesn't work as well. I'm just astonished that the scaling is so bad that 3 HD 4850s don't even perform as well as 2 HD 4870s. That's my point.[/QUOTE]well also remember the HD4850 isnt near as capable as the hd4870also the mobo and cpu only support so many lanes. most are x8 x8 for two cards and x4 x4 x4 x4 for four cards some are x16 x16 and x8 x8 x8 x8.
[QUOTE=''washd123''][QUOTE=''Marfoo'']You guys are missing the point, I'm totally aware mixed CrossfireX doesn't work as well. I'm just astonished that the scaling is so bad that 3 HD 4850s don't even perform as well as 2 HD 4870s. That's my point.[/QUOTE]
well also remember the HD4850 isnt near as capable as the hd4870
also the mobo and cpu only support so many lanes. most are x8 x8 for two cards and x4 x4 x4 x4 for four cards some are x16 x16 and x8 x8 x8 x8.[/QUOTE]
True, true, I'm running PCIe 2.0 16x16 Crossfire BTW. Oh well, at least CrossfireX setup is easy, just install the drivers like usual, no extra steps. I haven't had any compatibility issues, so that's a plus, and I don't notice any extra stuttering due to adding a third non synced chip, so that's good too.mask movie
I thought crysis doesn't scale well with multiple video card setups?Avoid mixed CrossfireX.
[QUOTE=''samuraiguns'']I thought crysis doesn't scale well with multiple video card setups?[/QUOTE]
Well, any games scaling is limited once you go from two to three. There is definitely a difference going from one to two with Crysis. In this case though, adding roughly another 1 billion transistors into the mix hurt the performance. I think the mis-matched cards are wholly to blame. Not only are their clock speeds mismatched, so are their memory interfaces. Something tells me if I had an HD 4870X2 I would have seen a boost.
I believe this is because crossfire limits you to the speed of your slowest card meaning that your 4870 would only be running at the speed of a 4850.So what you have is 3x4850's and that obviously isn't going to beat 2x4870's
Mixed crossfire downclocks to speed of your cards to the slowest one
Yeah turns out 2 HD 4870s can outperform 4x HD 4770s. Hopefully CrossfireX in the future will scale better passed 2 cards. HD 4770 CrossfireX Review.
[QUOTE=''PcGamingRig'']Mixed crossfire downclocks to speed of your cards to the slowest one[/QUOTE]
Bingo! If you mixing cards. Make sure its from the same family. I.E. an 4870 and a 4780X2 can be Crossfired without much problem. I believe Jiggly uses a 3870 and a 3870X2 in a mixed setup.
You guys are missing the point, I'm totally aware mixed CrossfireX doesn't work as well. I'm just astonished that the scaling is so bad that 3 HD 4850s don't even perform as well as 2 HD 4870s. That's my point.
[QUOTE=''Marfoo'']You guys are missing the point, I'm totally aware mixed CrossfireX doesn't work as well. I'm just astonished that the scaling is so bad that 3 HD 4850s don't even perform as well as 2 HD 4870s. That's my point.[/QUOTE]well also remember the HD4850 isnt near as capable as the hd4870also the mobo and cpu only support so many lanes. most are x8 x8 for two cards and x4 x4 x4 x4 for four cards some are x16 x16 and x8 x8 x8 x8.
[QUOTE=''washd123''][QUOTE=''Marfoo'']You guys are missing the point, I'm totally aware mixed CrossfireX doesn't work as well. I'm just astonished that the scaling is so bad that 3 HD 4850s don't even perform as well as 2 HD 4870s. That's my point.[/QUOTE]
well also remember the HD4850 isnt near as capable as the hd4870
also the mobo and cpu only support so many lanes. most are x8 x8 for two cards and x4 x4 x4 x4 for four cards some are x16 x16 and x8 x8 x8 x8.[/QUOTE]
True, true, I'm running PCIe 2.0 16x16 Crossfire BTW. Oh well, at least CrossfireX setup is easy, just install the drivers like usual, no extra steps. I haven't had any compatibility issues, so that's a plus, and I don't notice any extra stuttering due to adding a third non synced chip, so that's good too.
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